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Re: [Samba] Users created in last few years cannot login after 4.7 -> 4.8 + winbind

It appears there is still misunderstanding about my situation/setup. Sorry, I know this is strange.

I have an LDAP server for my Linux infrastructure that is totally seperate
from the corporate AD Windows domain.  At one point my LDAP did have
the samba schema installed with my its own SID's and smbpasswd's in it.
My web app for users to change their Linux password would on the backend
set their 'userPassword' and 'sambaNTPassword' via separate calls
to keep them in sync.

But when the edict to do single sign on to the coporate AD happened I stopped using any of the samba schema in my LDAP server. And I set each user's 'userPassword' field to something like '{SASL}per2' to use passthru on the LDAP authentication end. And I configured samba to use corporate AD
with the username map

Corporate is definitely NOT going to let me copy 'sambaNTPassword' from them or let me setup my own domain to trust. The later would probably not
work anyway due to the mismatch with names/uids.

So with 4.7.x using the 'username map' with 'domain = ads' was working
just fine with me.

The random nature of this is what is most confusing.  Mounting always
works for old account 'per2'.  But I can have mounting work for one
the new accounts, simply doing a 'systemctl restart smb' and then mounting
does not work for the new account or unmounting, waiting 10 minutes changing
nothing and then trying to mount again.

In addition I think I run into the secondary group problem referenced in the thread I mentioned a few months ago. The share I was setting was using "valid users = +sysadm" and per2, aea32 and nmr27 are all in that group (but not their primary group).


    path = /home/posters
    valid users = +sysadm
    writable = yes
    create mask = 664
    force create mode = 664
    directory mask = 2775
    force directory mode = 2775

And the permissions on /home/posters being

drwxrws--- 5 root sysadm 4096 Jan  7 11:13 /webdata/posters

only user 'per2' can mount the share ('per2' can also write)

When I changed it to

    path = /home/posters
    valid users = aea32 nmr27 +sysadm

and made the directory world readable I was then sometimes able
to mount this share as aea32 and nmr27, sometimes not. When I
could I could not write to the directory till I made it owned
by the user who mounted.

I have been using

       idmap config *:backend = tdb
       idmap config *:range = 100-999
       idmap config PARTNERS:backend = ad
       idmap config PARTNERS:schema_mode = rfc2307
       idmap config PARTNERS:range = 1000-9999999
       idmap config PARTNERS:unix_primary_group = yes

so all 3 accounts are covered in the 1000-9999999 range.

Failure will have a message like:

winbindd case, sid_to_uid for S-1-5-21-8915387-943144406-1916815836-949594 failed

which is the SID of in the corporate AD of the user I was trying.

[root:/var/log/samba]# wbinfo --sid-to-name=S-1-5-21-8915387-943144406-1916815836-949594
PARTNERS\nmr27 1

The above wbinfo always seems to work, so I don't know why it randomly
fails with the sid_to_uid error on mount requests

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 4:20pm, Rowland Penny wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 15:14:06 -0500 (EST)
Paul Raines <raines@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 4:57am, Rowland Penny wrote:

On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:46:51 -0500 (EST)
Paul Raines via samba <samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

TLDR: after upgrading our CentOS 7.5 servers using Samba 4.7.x with
security = ads and no winbind to CentOS 7.6 with Samba 4.8.x with
security = ads + winbind all users accounts created in the last few
years can no longer login.

Explaining this requires a fairly long back story

Our corporate is primarily a Windows shop while our own research
department primarly uses Linux.  For over a decade we used our own
account/group/file namespace in our Linux infrastructure totally
separate from corporate.

A couple years ago for new security hardening purposes corporate
has dictated all logins need to be based off their AD server so
they can manage/monitor/enforce password changes, access, etc.

So go back to them, point out it isn't working and they need to
extend AD by adding the IDMU ldif and create your users and groups
in AD with the correct ID's ;-)

This is not an option for me.  Corporate is not going to change
anything on AD for me.  And this would create the opposite problem
were my users with resources on the corporate instrastructure will
have things break if the IDs are changed.

The issue was we had petabytes of data using our accounts which had
in most cases both different names and underlying user ids. For
example, my Linux username is raines with ID 5829

I take it this ID is the Unix users ID found in /etc/passwd

My LDAP server, but yes

This is the first mention of LDAP

and my corparte/AD username is per2 with ID 2040470.

And this is the users AD RID

uidNumber you get when searching account on AD via LDAP

So, your users are stored in LDAP, I take it from 'uidNumber' that the
samba schema is installed.

 And groups have no relation
whatsoever. Simply reconfiguring our Linux servers to do straight
LDAP or winbind/nss to corporate AD was not possible without a
wholesale painful re-ID-ing of files and breakage of lots of apps
that hard code usernames in settings.

It wouldn't have been a problem if AD had been extended properly.

I really don't see how that was realistically possible.  ANd I am
positive the managers would not allow the UIDs in the range
5000-10000 I had use for my users.  I have a handful of users from
the early 2000s with UIDs in the 100-5000 range (predates me -- this
is before distros started enforcing user creation >500). It most
likely conflicts with system accounts they had created.

raines = MYDOMAIN\per2
aea32 = MYDOMAIN\aea32

That's one way of doing it, it isn't how I would have done it.

Except for "extending AD" as above is there another way.

All I want and need from corporate AD is password authentication.  I
don't want or need anything else, including user or group ids. I
want Samba to get everything else (user id, group ids, shell,
homedir, ...) from the local NIS backend (i.e. my LDAP server)

Basically extending AD with IDMU means that NIS is put into AD.

and then have in smb.conf

 	workgroup = MYDOMAIN
         security = ads
         passdb backend = tdbsam
         realm = MYDOMAIN.ORG

         dedicated keytab file = /etc/krb5.keytab
         kerberos method = secrets and keytab
         preferred master = no
         encrypt passwords = yes

         socket options = TCP_NODELAY IPTOS_LOWDELAY

         idmap config *:backend = tdb
         idmap config *:range = 100-999999

That is a foolish range, it interferes with the local system users.
The '*' domain is for the Well Known Sids and anything outside the
'MYDOMAIN' domain.

Again, I am not using WINBIND for actual NIS in the system.  It
will not be in /etc/nsswitch.conf, pam, etc.  I never used it before
in Samba 4.7.x or before.  I am only running it because it is now
required to use security=ads for authentication.  I DO want any
login on the samba server of any system account to always fail.

         idmap config MYDOMAIN:backend = ad
         idmap config MYDOMAIN:schema_mode = rfc2307
         idmap config MYDOMAIN:range = 1000000-9999999

Sorry, but this is wrong for your Samba version, see here:


and here:


The range must reflect the uidNumber & gidNumber attributes in AD.

I have tried using the nss backend and the results are random.
Sometimes it works.  Sometimes it doesn't.  It still always works
for my "old" account.  Just not for new accounts.

What I was trying to point out was, 'idmap config' in smb.conf changed
at 4.6.0, yours is for pre 4.6.0
Not that it matters, because you are using 'security = ADS', the
machine must be joined to AD and all authentication will be coming from
AD, your ldap server will be ignored.

Do you have any configuration suggestion?

You could try this, use 'security = user' and run your server as a
standalone pulling your info from your ldap server.

Is there a way to have winbind not fail a login just because it
cannot map a SID to GID? Is there a way for me to force
a mapping for S-1-5-21-8915387-943144406-1916815836-513?
I tried wbinfo --set-gid-mapping but just got WBC_ERR_NOT_IMPLEMENTED

This isn't implemented for 'ADS' because it isn't required, you
normally just give Domain Users a gidNumber.

I guess for now I will continue to run Samba 4.7.x as long as I can
still get it to run

4.7.x is still supported by Samba and will be until 4.10.0 comes out
(approx beginning of March)


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