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Re: [Samba] Samba4 on Ubuntu 18.04 Howto setup ADDC with bind9_DLZ (extra part 4.8.1 samba)




Sorry to bother you more, Louis...
Can you take a quick whack at this?

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> So, I'm curious about the contrast between modifying netplan vs
> simply disabling systemd.resolved
> 
> Is there some advantage to the gyrations to make netplan work, vs
> simply disabling resolved and manually defining the IP and DNS
> server?
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I'd honestly prefer disabling systemd.resolved - but would like to understand your way of doing it better, so I can make an informed choice.

Thanks [and sorry all for the thread drifting from strictly Samba stuff...]
-Greg

LPHvBvs> Hai,

LPHvBvs> And yes, i can confirm that Rowland is correct about my point of view.
LPHvBvs> I'll also explain a bit why so people can understand my thoughts. 

LPHvBvs> I install a server as minimal as possible, yes, you might
LPHvBvs> miss some packages, but you can install these after the base setup.
LPHvBvs> The Why is, This saves a lot of space, unneeded
LPHvBvs> updates/upgrade of packages you dont use and it results in a more stable server.

LPHvBvs> I setup with, at least i try to, as less as possible of
LPHvBvs> adjustment of the default config files and try to stay in
LPHvBvs> line with the thoughts of the developers. 
LPHvBvs> The Why is, and you upgrade packages or the OS upgrade,
LPHvBvs> lesser problems and lesser you need to upgrade to quicker and
LPHvBvs> more save for unattended upgrade.
LPHvBvs> Because if this all my servers run with unattended upgrades.
LPHvBvs> Daily all packages, kernel reboot needed, in the weekends. 

LPHvBvs> This is why i dont care about sysv services systemd
LPHvBvs> whatever, use it how to os is designed. 
LPHvBvs> And if you dont like it, .. ( sorry for the example ) like
LPHvBvs> Rowland and systemd, he switched to Devuan.
LPHvBvs> A Debian version but without systemd.

LPHvBvs> I dont like Ubuntu, but i do like Debian. 
LPHvBvs> You think, but its the same, no, totaly not, yes, same
LPHvBvs> packages, but not the same in how the system runs.
LPHvBvs> A good example is how the resolving is done, the "unneeded"
LPHvBvs> packages ubuntu installs which only slows down your system.

LPHvBvs> My vision. 
LPHvBvs> Servers, Debian stable, no gui as minimal as possible. 
LPHvBvs> * A note, companies might need, ubuntu or RedHat due to
LPHvBvs> hardware/software support and regulations. 

LPHvBvs> Desktop, Debian stable/Ubuntu Desktop/Ubuntu Mate/Mint
LPHvBvs>         Regular user, keep the desktop defaults.
LPHvBvs>         user like me, install the minimal desktop. 

LPHvBvs> Media server, kodi/plex etc, Ubuntu server.
LPHvBvs>         Debian is getting better here, but i have not tested that. 

LPHvBvs> Above is based on almost 20 years linux use. 
LPHvBvs> Just shareing my thoughs here about the how and why i use my linux. 

LPHvBvs> Questions, just ask me. 

LPHvBvs> Greetz, 

LPHvBvs> Louis


>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens 
>> Rowland Penny via samba
>> Verzonden: vrijdag 11 mei 2018 16:24
>> Aan: samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Samba4 on Ubuntu 18.04 Howto setup 
>> ADDC with bind9_DLZ (extra part 4.8.1 samba)

>> On Fri, 11 May 2018 07:14:38 -0700
>> Gregory Sloop via samba <samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> > So, I'm curious about the contrast between modifying netplan vs
>> > simply disabling systemd.resolved
>> > 
>> > Is there some advantage to the gyrations to make netplan work, vs
>> > simply disabling resolved and manually defining the IP and DNS
>> > server? [I'm not complaining, I'm thankful for all the 
>> options - just
>> > wanting to have the best handle possible on the reasoning behind one
>> > method vs the other.]
>> > 

>> My opinion is pretty basic, if you are setting up a Samba AD DC, then
>> you don't need/want anything installed that could change the DNS
>> settings.

>> Louis's point of view seems to be, do the least amount of alteration
>> to the OS to get it work without removing anything.

>> You pays your money and makes your choice ;-)

>> Rowland 

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