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Re: [Samba] Slow Kerberos Authentication




Update: I installed samba4 with the existing config, it's sped up slightly
but I'm seeing another error
After it's started gensec submechanism gse_krb5 it takes around 40 seconds
to resolve the hostname to FQDN
HOSTNAME -> hostname.local

I've got the entry in hosts and it's correct in DNS, what could be the
problem?

On 11 Nov 2017 10:01, "Paul" <bluescreen08@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Just to update this, I'm going to upgrade to samba4 but it won't be for a
> few days yet, I'll keep this thread updated with what happens.
>
> On 10 Nov 2017 11:23, "L.P.H. van Belle via samba" <samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> No, no idee, but really, upgrade to samba, best option, in my opinion.
>> If thats not possible, it happens..
>>
>> A timeout option can be set in krb5.conf
>> for example :  kdc_timeout = 5000
>>
>>
>> You have these for krb5.conf to try out also.
>> the complete list.
>> des-hmac-sha1
>>         DES with HMAC/sha1 (weak)
>>
>> aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 aes256-cts AES-256
>>         CTS mode with 96-bit SHA-1 HMAC
>>
>> aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96 aes128-cts AES-128
>>         CTS mode with 96-bit SHA-1 HMAC
>>
>> arcfour-hmac rc4-hmac arcfour-hmac-md5
>>         RC4 with HMAC/MD5
>>
>> arcfour-hmac-exp rc4-hmac-exp arcfour-hmac-md5-exp
>>         Exportable RC4 with HMAC/MD5 (weak)
>>
>> camellia256-cts-cmac camellia256-cts
>>         Camellia-256 CTS mode with CMAC
>>
>> camellia128-cts-cmac camellia128-cts
>>         Camellia-128 CTS mode with CMAC
>>
>> des
>>         The DES family: des-cbc-crc, des-cbc-md5, and des-cbc-md4 (weak)
>>
>> des3
>>         The triple DES family: des3-cbc-sha1
>>
>> aes
>>         The AES family: aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 and
>> aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>>
>> rc4
>>         The RC4 family: arcfour-hmac
>>
>> camellia
>>         The Camellia family: camellia256-cts-cmac and camellia128-cts-cmac
>>
>>
>> try the lines i send before keep the allow weak encptions.
>> try these, and add them at the beginning.
>> arcfour-hmac
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetz,
>>
>> Louis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>         Van: Paul [mailto:bluescreen08@xxxxxxxxx]
>>         Verzonden: vrijdag 10 november 2017 12:03
>>         Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
>>         CC: samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>         Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Slow Kerberos Authentication
>>
>>
>>         I'll look into it and update if I find anything out :)
>>         Any idea why it would try enc type 17, then 18, then pause for 30
>> seconds?
>>
>>         It feels like a timeout is being hit but I don't understand
>> enough about samba/Kerberos to figure out what it is.
>>
>>         On 10 Nov 2017 09:37, "L.P.H. van Belle via samba" <
>> samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                 Hai Paul,
>>
>>                 hmm, i think its time.. to upgrade your samba.
>>
>>                 I dont think the other krb5.conf options work, but you
>> might give it a try.
>>                 See man krb5.conf, where i took it from.
>>                 add /change in krb5.conf
>>
>>                  [kdc]
>>                 tgt-use-strongest-session-key = BOOL
>>                 svc-use-strongest-session-key = BOOL
>>                 preauth-use-strongest-session-key= BOOL
>>                 use-strongest-server-key = BOOL
>>                 encode_as_rep_as_tgs_rep = BOOL
>>
>>                 BOOL = true or false.
>>
>>                 You might set the default windows encryption in krb5.conf
>> as standard, but imo, that are changes which might give other problems.
>>                 And is not my best advice..
>>
>>                 So best advice is .. upgrade to samba 4, and packages are
>> available.
>>                 https://linux.oracle.com/errata/ELSA-2017-1271.html <
>> https://linux.oracle.com/errata/ELSA-2017-1271.html>
>>
>>
>>                 Greetz,
>>
>>                 Louis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Van: Paul [mailto:bluescreen08@xxxxxxxxx]
>>                 Verzonden: vrijdag 10 november 2017 9:57
>>                 Aan: L.P.H. van Belle
>>                 Onderwerp: Re: [Samba] Slow Kerberos Authentication
>>
>>
>>
>>                 Thanks, however that didn't work even after a reboot,
>> still the same error.
>>
>>                 On 9 Nov 2017 16:05, "L.P.H. van Belle via samba" <
>> samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>                 Hai,
>>
>>                 You may need to add the the following in krb5.conf
>>
>>                 [libdefaults]
>>                  allow_weak_crypto = true
>>
>>                 ; for Windows 2003
>>                 ;    default_tgs_enctypes = rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc
>> des-cbc-md5
>>                 ;    default_tkt_enctypes = rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc
>> des-cbc-md5
>>                 ;    permitted_enctypes = rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc des-cbc-md5
>>
>>                 ; for Windows 2008 with AES
>>                     default_tgs_enctypes = aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc des-cbc-md5
>>                     default_tkt_enctypes = aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc des-cbc-md5
>>                     permitted_enctypes = aes128-cts-hmac-sha1-96
>> aes256-cts-hmac-sha1-96 rc4-hmac des-cbc-crc des-cbc-md5
>>
>>                 Can you try that.
>>
>>                 Greetz,
>>
>>                 Louis
>>
>>
>>
>>                 > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>                 > Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:samba-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] Namens Paul
>>                 > via samba
>>                 > Verzonden: donderdag 9 november 2017 16:45
>>                 > Aan: samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>                 > Onderwerp: [Samba] Slow Kerberos Authentication
>>                 >
>>                 > Hi All,
>>                 >
>>                 > I've a problem with samba 3.6.23 on Oracle Linux 6,
>> Kerberos
>>                 > authentication
>>                 > is working but it takes around 30 seconds on first
>> access. This is an
>>                 > active directory domain with 2008r2 DC's.
>>                 > I've tracked it down to what looks like the incorrect
>>                 > encryption type being
>>                 > used according to the debug output below, as you can
>> see it
>>                 > fails twice
>>                 > with enc type of 17 and 18 but succeeds with 23... Which
>>                 > according to the
>>                 > RFC is rc4-hmac which is all windows DCs talk from what
>> I can
>>                 > find out.
>>                 > How can I get it so the correct encryption is chosen
>> first time?
>>                 >
>>                 > Log excerpt:
>>                 >
>>                 > [2017/11/09 10:18:04.174379,  3]
>> smbd/sesssetup.c:662(reply_spn
>>                 > ego_negotiate)
>>                 >
>>                 >   reply_spnego_negotiate: Got secblob of size 3264
>>                 >
>>                 > [2017/11/09 10:18:04.201392, 10]
>> libads/kerberos_verify.c:435(a
>>                 > ds_secrets_verify_ticket)
>>                 >
>>                 >   libads/kerberos_verify.c:435: enc type [18] failed to
>>                 > decrypt with error
>>                 > Bad encryption type
>>                 >
>>                 > [2017/11/09 10:18:04.214632, 10]
>> libads/kerberos_verify.c:435(a
>>                 > ds_secrets_verify_ticket)
>>                 >
>>                 >   libads/kerberos_verify.c:435: enc type [17] failed to
>>                 > decrypt with error
>>                 > Bad encryption type
>>                 >
>>                 > [2017/11/09 10:18:26.528850, 10]
>> libads/kerberos_verify.c:423(a
>>                 > ds_secrets_verify_ticket)
>>                 >
>>                 >   libads/kerberos_verify.c:423: enc type [23] decrypted
>> message !
>>                 >
>>                 > [2017/11/09 10:18:26.529143, 10]
>> libsmb/clikrb5.c:955(get_krb5_
>>                 > smb_session_key)
>>                 >
>>                 >   Got KRB5 session key of length 16
>>
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