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Re: [Samba] Samba 4.6.x as secondary DC to Windows 2008 R2




 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: samba [mailto:samba-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens 
> Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk via samba
> Verzonden: donderdag 11 mei 2017 18:43
> Aan: samba@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Onderwerp: [Samba] Samba 4.6.x as secondary DC to Windows 2008 R2
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I am running a two location SOHO network with a Microsoft AD 
> on a Windows 2008 R2 server. In detail, the infrastructure is 
> as follows:
> 
> Primary location:
> - 1 DC on Windows 2008 R2 hardware server
> - 1 DC on Windows 2008 R2 virtual server
> - 2 DC on Windows 2016 virtual servers (forest functional level 2008)
> - 1 DC on Samba 4.6.2 on Debian Jessie
> 
> Secondary location:
> - 1 DC on Samba 4.6.3 on Debian Jessie
> 
> My aim is to become more independent from Microsoft products. 
+1,  got that already off my checklist. 

> Over time, I will be unable to avoid upgrading my Windows 
> servers to Windows 2016 - which does not mean that the DC 
> level needs to be upgraded to Server 2016 (known to 
> incompatible with Samba).
> 
> My problem is twofold:
> 
> 1) It seems that at least joining the domain and the initial 
> replication is possible only with Samba DC and Windows 2008 
> R2 DC, not with Windows 2016 DC, even if forest level is 
> 2008. That is a problem, because once no 2008 servers will 
> remain, the possibilities to join as a DC shrinks.
> 
> Is this correct and is there a cure?

Yes, and no/maybe. 
Keep an eye on :  https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12204 and 
And no. 2016 join as DC is not supported yet, you can join the windows as member server.


> 
> 2) While the Windows DC are very reliable and able to recover 
> pretty much any interruption of services (except scaling back 
> a virtual machine to a previous point in time, of course), 
> Samba 4.6.x does seem to be pretty sensitive. It seems that 
> the slightest interruption of service in the wrong moment 
> kills further replications permanently. Such interruptions 
> include a reboot at the wrong moment or minimal interruptions 
> of connectivity (e. g., online backup of a VM or seconds of 
> loss of VPN connectivity between locations). From such point 
> in time, the Microsoft DCs throw an error which indicates 
> that schemas to no longer match (original error message in 
> German below).
> 
> So far, the only fix was to shut down the affected Samba DC, 
> force delete it from a Windows 2008 R2 DC, delete the 
> relevant .tdb and .ldb databases, restart samba and rejoin 
> the domain. Since this does happen frequently (so far, my 
> setup did not survive for any single calendar month 
> consistently), I would very much welcome to learn if there is 
> a better recovery technique.

I run 2 samba DC's, and i do my maintanance at office times. 
Nobody notice this, even not when i down my server for a few hours if needed. 

> 
> Is my setup feasible at all? Should I better give up and 
> install a Windows 2016 DC in my secondary location to achieve 
> good reliability?
I would install a samba AD DC at the remove, and drop the windows completely. 
But i cant tell how importand your windows servers are, thats up to you. 

> 
> I would be very happy to find a reliable solution for two 
> reasons: a) I do prefer open source. b) I would like to build 
> a two node CTDB cluster. But I would feel terrible if I 
> procured two hardware servers only to find the same 
> reliability issues with the CTDB cluster as well.

Stefan Kania wrote this. CTDB with Gluster Howto
www.kania-online.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ubuntu-cluster.txt
( includes vfs-modules "glusterfs", "shadow_copy2" and "recycle" ) 


About the error below. 
Check/compare the samba schema and windows versions.
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/AD_Schema_Version_Support 
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_AD_schema_extensions 




> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Protokollname: Directory Service
> Quelle:        Microsoft-Windows-ActiveDirectory_DomainService
> Datum:         XX.XX.2017 20:55:42
> Ereignis-ID:   1791
> Aufgabenkategorie:Replikation
> Ebene:         Fehler
> Schlüsselwörter:Klassisch
> Benutzer:      ANONYMOUS-ANMELDUNG
> Computer:      servercore.schefczyk.local
> Beschreibung:
> Die Replikation der Anwendungsverzeichnispartition 
> DC=schefczyk,DC=local von Quelle 
> 11d000d6-f318-44fa-9935-dfc82a28c282 
> (domainb72.schefczyk.local) wurde abgebrochen. Für die 
> Replikation ist ein konsistentes Schema erforderlich, aber 
> beim letzten Versuch, das Schema zu synchronisieren, ist ein 
> Fehler aufgetreten. Ein ordnungsgemäßes Funktionieren der 
> Schemareplikation ist äußerst wichtig. Betrachten Sie die 
> vorangegangenen Fehler zur weiteren Analyse. Wenden Sie sich 
> an Microsoft Support Services, falls das Problem weiterhin 
> besteht. Fehler 8418: Der Replikationsvorgang ist 
> fehlgeschlagen, da Schemas unter den beteiligten Servern 
> nicht übereinstimmten..
> Ereignis-XML:
> <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event";>
>   <System>
>     <Provider 
> Name="Microsoft-Windows-ActiveDirectory_DomainService" 
> Guid="{0e8478c5-3605-4e8c-8497-1e730c959516}" 
> EventSourceName="NTDS General" />
>     <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1791</EventID>
>     <Version>0</Version>
>     <Level>2</Level>
>     <Task>5</Task>
>     <Opcode>0</Opcode>
>     <Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>
>     <TimeCreated SystemTime="2017-XX-XXT19:55:42.634417100Z" />
>     <EventRecordID>35100</EventRecordID>
>     <Correlation />
>     <Execution ProcessID="816" ThreadID="1856" />
>     <Channel>Directory Service</Channel>
>     <Computer>servercore.schefczyk.local</Computer>
>     <Security UserID="S-1-5-7" />
>   </System>
>   <EventData>
>     <Data>DC=schefczyk,DC=local</Data>
>     <Data>11d000d6-f318-44fa-9935-dfc82a28c282 
> (domainb72.schefczyk.local)</Data>
>     <Data>8418</Data>
>     <Data>Der Replikationsvorgang ist fehlgeschlagen, da 
> Schemas unter den beteiligten Servern nicht übereinstimmten.</Data>
>   </EventData>
> </Event>
> 
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