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Re: [MPlayer-dev-eng] [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg/MPlayer/rtmpdump possibly searching for a new server and hosting




Hi,

If it helps anyone, just to clarify, we offer that the OVH server is
contracted to the ffmpeg group name, not ours, in an account over the
control of the community, not libnova. We'll just pay it for 2 years.

Regards, AG.
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Michael Niedermayer [mailto:michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Enviado el: sábado, 18 de julio de 2015 4:19
Para: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
CC: Antonio Guillermo Martínez (libnova); rtmpdump@xxxxxxxxxxxx;
mplayer-dev-eng@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg/MPlayer/rtmpdump possibly searching for
a new server and hosting

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:04:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Kieran Kunhya <kierank@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On 17 July 2015 at 22:00, Michael Niedermayer
> > <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 04:16:53PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:26PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf
wrote:
> > >> > On 15 Jul, Michael Niedermayer wrote :
> > >> > > longer awnser,
> > >> > > videolan IIUC would be willing to host some of our services
> > >> > > on their existing server but this would require a "quite a
> > >> > > bit" of work. videolan uses LXC we do not.
> > >> >
> > >> > Indeed, and there is a good reason for that, called security.
> > >> >
> > >> > > also videolan of course would have to agree to everything,
> > >> > > its their server of course ...
> > >> >
> > >> > VideoLAN has very powerfull machines, connected in a correct
> > datacenter,
> > >> > with a contract, that will outlive any single member.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> > Don't take it bad, but seeing the discussions, and the way you
> > >> > manage your roots and services migration, you don't seem to
> > >> > care that much about being correctly deployed, but to do it fast.
> > >>
> > >> iam not taking it bad but when you are being told your boxes
> > >> could be shutdown without prior notice by the new managment, then
> > >> yes you try to move fast, which is what we did.
> > >> Not because thats a great thing to do but because it was needed
> > >
> > > also speaking of that, id like to take the opertunity to thank
> > > everyone who helped making that quick move to the current servers
> > > possible That is at least alex, arpi, fabrice, beastd, kieran,
> > > reimar, roberto, lou, tim,  ubitux and probably more who i have
> > > forgotten to list
> > >
> > > In principle we could stay at these servers but i think its better
> > > if we use the time available now to move things to some free,
> > > higher end servers and hosting and also if possible (volunteers)
> > > move to something like LXC or qemu/kvm in the process and have
> > > services properly seperated
> > >
> > > That would give us better servers, more robust hosting than what
> > > you get with a 50euro/mo box. more security and at less cost.
> >
> > Sorry but this is a bizzare and short-sighted goal. Whilst I am sure
> > most of the offers mean well it's much better to get help from the
> > community because at least we know who they are, where the data is
> > stored, easily contactable etc. The person offering free hosting
> > could just leave their company and the machine wiped one day.
>
>
> J-B offered that videolan will host ffmpeg. I, for one, would be
> thrilled if that were to happen. I trust videolan a lot.

so do i, i trust JB, but will JB still be in charge in 5 years?
in 10 years? can we trust whoever will come after JB ?

I think FFmpeg should stay with a "neutral" provider/hoster.

We did something like this once when moving away from sourceforge and it
ultimately resulted in the libav fork.


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