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Re: [MPlayer-dev-eng] [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg/MPlayer/rtmpdump possibly searching for a new server and hosting




On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:04:37PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Kieran Kunhya <kierank@xxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On 17 July 2015 at 22:00, Michael Niedermayer <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 04:16:53PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 03:30:26PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > >> > On 15 Jul, Michael Niedermayer wrote :
> > >> > > longer awnser,
> > >> > > videolan IIUC would be willing to host some of our services
> > >> > > on their existing server but this would require a "quite a bit" of
> > >> > > work. videolan uses LXC we do not.
> > >> >
> > >> > Indeed, and there is a good reason for that, called security.
> > >> >
> > >> > > also videolan of course would have to agree to everything, its their
> > >> > > server of course ...
> > >> >
> > >> > VideoLAN has very powerfull machines, connected in a correct
> > datacenter,
> > >> > with a contract, that will outlive any single member.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> > Don't take it bad, but seeing the discussions, and the way you manage
> > >> > your roots and services migration, you don't seem to care that much
> > >> > about being correctly deployed, but to do it fast.
> > >>
> > >> iam not taking it bad but when you are being told your boxes could be
> > >> shutdown without prior notice by the new managment, then yes you try
> > >> to move fast, which is what we did.
> > >> Not because thats a great thing to do but because it was needed
> > >
> > > also speaking of that, id like to take the opertunity to thank everyone
> > > who helped making that quick move to the current servers possible
> > > That is at least alex, arpi, fabrice, beastd, kieran, reimar, roberto,
> > > lou, tim,  ubitux and probably more who i have forgotten to list
> > >
> > > In principle we could stay at these servers but i think its better
> > > if we use the time available now to move things to some free,
> > > higher end servers and hosting and also if possible (volunteers)
> > > move to something like LXC or qemu/kvm in the process and have
> > > services properly seperated
> > >
> > > That would give us better servers, more robust hosting than what you
> > > get with a 50euro/mo box. more security and at less cost.
> >
> > Sorry but this is a bizzare and short-sighted goal. Whilst I am sure
> > most of the offers mean well it's much better to get help from the
> > community because at least we know who they are, where the data is
> > stored, easily contactable etc. The person offering free hosting could
> > just leave their company and the machine wiped one day.
> 
> 
> J-B offered that videolan will host ffmpeg. I, for one, would be thrilled
> if that were to happen. I trust videolan a lot.

so do i, i trust JB, but will JB still be in charge in 5 years?
in 10 years? can we trust whoever will come after JB ?

I think FFmpeg should stay with a "neutral" provider/hoster.

We did something like this once when moving away from sourceforge
and it ultimately resulted in the libav fork.


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