Re: Browser vendors win war with W3C over HTML and DOM standards
- Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 19:06:51 -0700
- From: Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Browser vendors win war with W3C over HTML and DOM standards
My bloviated meandering follows what WaltS48 graced us with on 5/29/2019 1:43 PM:
On 5/29/19 10:47 AM, »Q« wrote:In <news:BZ6dndjo5vm9-3DBnZ2dnUU7-Q_NnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:REF:https://www.zdnet.com/article/browser-vendors-win-war-with-w3c-over-html-and-dom-standards/[excerpt quote=\" An industry group made up the four major browser vendors, such as Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla, have won a tug-of-war with the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), the standards body for the World Wide Web, effectively proving that without their support, the W3C's ability to regulate web standards is nonexistent. \" /] When competitors own standards criteria, 'standards' becomes an oxymoron.The article sort of makes it seem that the major browser vendors (is Mozilla really still "major"?) have tighter control of the WHATWG standards than they actually do. Anyone can contribute to the discussions (kinda like W3C); the standards editors who make the decisions about what's in or out are supposed to take all the input into account, and AFAIK they have a pretty good reputation for doing so. Them main power the browser vendors have is that if they think things are going off the rails, they can impeach and replace an editor. I don't think they've ever done so. I could be off on some or all of that -- I haven't paid much attention to the WHATWG since Hixie was the HTML5 editor. The last time W3C lost to WHATWG, over whether the future of the web was HTML or XHTML, the W3C kept its position as "the" standards organization by adopting WHATWG's HTML standard. At that point, there was some talk within the WHATWG about dissolving itself as no longer necessary. Now it looks like the W3C may be the one to dissolve over the next few years.Also, I always preferred W3C documentation over WHATWG's.Only prefer? ;) I always found WHATWG's documentation 100% useless.Pardon my ignorance but wasn't Mozilla Developer Network supposed to be the home for documentation?<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web> I can't recall when or where I read about that decision. Might look later.
I recall them announcing that as couple of years back: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/10/18/mozilla-brings-microsoft-google-w3c-samsung-together-create-cross-browser-documentation-mdn/but haven't read much about it since then. Is it just me or is there one major player, and a big one, that isn't included in that announcement?
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