Re: Browser vendors win war with W3C over HTML and DOM standards
- Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 18:21:56 -0400
- From: Wolf K <wolfmac@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Browser vendors win war with W3C over HTML and DOM standards
On 2019-05-28 15:09, Sailfish wrote:
My bloviated meandering follows what Don Spam's Reckless Son graced us
with on 5/28/2019 11:30 AM:
Point taken but whole reason W3C came about was due to the Wild West
browserisms implemented by different vendors, e.q., (Microsoft marquee
tag, Netscape Layer tag, &c) and while most of the browser 'players' are
using Apple-developed Webkit engine, Google ditch Apple's version and
create their own.
An industry group made up the four major browser vendors, such as
Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla, have won a tug-of-war with the
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), the standards body for the World
Wide Web, effectively proving that without their support, the W3C's
ability to regulate web standards is nonexistent.
When competitors own standards criteria, 'standards' becomes an
Also, I always preferred W3C documentation over WHATWG's.
The article indicates that the named browser vendors had cooperated to
produce their own standard because they did not like the one W3C had
come up with.
That is not necessarily a bad thing, you know the saying "A camel is a
horse designed by a committee"? I have no idea what camel W3C came up
with but if the browser vendows refuse to implement it, I'd assume
there was something fundamentally wrong with it.
I'm not lamenting it, just expecting more incompatibilities to creep in
as the media continues to evolve.
Standards are necessary, the only themes worth discussing are which
ones. interoperability and safety are primary, convenience is nice to
have. Esthetics, kewlness, etc and so on so forth are whatever the
vendor wants so long as they don't compromise safety, interoperability
Model: the NMRA's Standards and Recommended Practices, which have made
model trains about as nearly plug'n'play as toys can be. The vendors
realised early on that by following these standards they could sell more
product. The ones that tried to create sandboxes went broke.
Have a good day. Great spring weather here, hope it's good where you
are, too. :-)
You are who you intend to be. (Kurt Vonnegut)
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