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Re: Thoughts on Brave Browser?




On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 11:44:57 AM UTC-4, John Sterling wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 5:49:52 PM UTC-4, WaltS48 wrote:
> > On 4/11/18 4:33 PM, Sailfish wrote:
> > > My bloviated meandering follows what johnasterlingco@xxxxxxxxx graced us 
> > > with on 4/11/2018 12:35 PM:
> > >> I'd like to know what Mozilla leaders thinks of the Brave Software Inc 
> > >> Brave Browser. It's ad block by default with using blockchain tech to 
> > >> pay websites and cleanup ads is a pretty awesome idea.  I have some 
> > >> concerns with their ability to monopolize if they are successful. I 
> > >> know that Brendan Eich was a higher up in Mozilla a few years back, I 
> > >> know there could be some hard feelings... but I'm hoping to find some 
> > >> good discussions about the merits of what Brave is doing and what 
> > >> Mozilla is doing. I'm considering which (or both) to continue to 
> > >> support (by telling friends, donations and possibly coding).
> > >>
> > >> If you aren't familiar with the Brave Browser, here is a summary along 
> > >> with a few of my concerns:
> > >>
> > >> Brave addresses the ad issue on the web:
> > >> * Content providers aren’t getting enough money, meaning we (users) 
> > >> are losing content (nothing is free)
> > >> * Fraud – something like 7 billion dollars per year lost to fraud and 
> > >> not paying for your content or apps
> > >> * Malware – ex. Ads doing bitcoin mining in the background
> > >> * Horribly distracting – especially auto-start video ads
> > >> * Takes time for you device to download and display ads on each page
> > >>
> > >> Brave browser:
> > >> * simplifies the ad system be removing middle players and providing 
> > >> much more security
> > >> * Allows micropayments instead of advertising if users choose to do so
> > >> * might be setting itself up to be a monopoly – I worry about that a lot
> > >> * Brave Software Inc is a privately held company, I don’t like the 
> > >> idea of doing open source work that makes a private company money… but 
> > >> the cause they are supporting still seems worthwhile.  I wish they 
> > >> were non-profit.
> > >>
> > >> Good summaries:
> > >> https://www.brave.com/how-to-fix-the-web/
> > >> https://hackernoon.com/why-im-bullish-on-bat-and-the-brave-browser-in-2018-8e2cbc0ce420 
> > >>
> > > 
> > > If they provided the tab functionality of TMP, then I'd switch in a 
> > > heartbeat; otherwise, I'll stick with Fx52.xESR for as long as I can.
> > > 
> > 
> > Have you tried Vivaldi?
> > 
> > https://vivaldi.com/features/
> > 
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> 
> I took a look just now at Vivaldi, the one thing I find exciting is that it is employee owned.  I like that because my post is about activism, not just what is the best browser.
> 
> On that note, I'm not sure you understand what I'm looking for.
> The web and our society are having serious issues and Brave's strategy for handling ads looks like a good way to mitigate a piece of that.
> 
> There is also a huge problem with proprietary apps and apps (and websites) that manipulate the users and get them to waste their time.  A different corporate model is needed I think for those issues, Brave doesn't have that.  Open source projects have some of that but I think really give most of the power to the developers and not the users.  Vivladi being employee owned is interesting because of that.
> 
> Really though - I want to hear what Mozilla thinks of the Brave browser project - Branden used to be a leader at Mozilla and is now doing this project, so they have to be very aware.

also - is there a way to participate in this google group without having your email address displayed?  I don't want to start getting spam because some bot scanned a google group or email.
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