Re: Mozilla is evil!
On Mon Jan 22 2018 23:24:31 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Lucifer
Morningstar <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Like many others I had to revert back to 56 and set it
to never update since 57 is mostly unusable.
Unusable because the change of UI and extension API, or that you found
57 to not work well for you? If the latter, that's something that
happens to some number of people with nearly update -- however, my
experience is that problems following upgrades are nearly always related
to the individual user profile (i.e., a data problem) than any thing
more general to Firefox. Personally, I maintain a separate user profile
that is almost entirely default settings, and if I'm having problems, I
will restart Firefox with that profile. I can't remember a time when
checking things with that profile has had problems.
Please stop with the scare mongering. It isn't unusable, but it does no
longer support legacy Addons, but this has been well publicized.
It may be unusable for the OP, but as noted, very likely a problem with
the individual profile.
Why do Mozilla want people to run a flawed version of Firefox?
It isn't flawed, it is introducing brand new technology, and dropped
support for much older (some say ancient) technology.
And as much as we might wish otherwise, technology doesn't stand still.
There may be some place for "if it ain't broke, don't mess with it", but
in a competitive environment, sometimes it's "change or die". A lot has
been made of how much Mozilla may be chasing after Google, but the fact
of the matter is that for a majority of users Chrome has become the
normal browser, and Chrome's market share of users is where Internet
Explorer was, only a few years ago. Firefox has a lot going for it, but
not enough where it's going to be compelling to convince very many
people to abandon Chrome. And the market share is small enough to be
bordering on insignificant. I don't like that either, but that's the
I for one am not happy about the loss of many of my Addons, and think
that Mozilla has made some very poor decision with respect to what APIs
they will (and will not) provide, thus sending a death knell to certain
Addons (Classic Theme Restorer, Status-4-Evar, Tab Mix Plus, etc).
Agreed. I'm disappointed with loss of other extensions. However, ESR is
still an option (at least for another few months), as are other forks,
including Seamonkey, Palemoon, Cyberfox, etc.
On the other hand, it is much faster, and I was surprised to find that I
actually didn't need to do as much customizing to get it to look the way
I want as I feared, so am hopeful that things will only get better.
I've noticed the same thing -- both speed, and that tuning of appearance
and behavior aren't as much as I had feared. I've been running betas in
a virtual machine, and I have a testing profile that I configured in FF
56, with all my preferred extensions. The beta allowed me to test a
bare installation of FF57 before release, and when I upgraded the
testing profile, it allowed me to track what extensions stopped working.
As a general thing, it's not a good idea to get too wedded to any
specific extension. Although there's definitely extensions that are
unique, I've found that over the years, there's often multiple
extensions that have similar function. Thus, if one dies, there is
often a way of finding another extension as a replacement, even if the
look-and-feel are different, and don't have the comfort or familiarity
that I prefer. For me, using Seamonkey as my primary browser, I do have
the luxury of keeping the Firefox updates at arm's length, but I've
found that my primary Firefox profile has most of the functionality of
what I do with Seamonkey or Firefox prior to upgrade to v 57.
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