Re: I feel unclean
- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:52:39 -0600
- From: Ron Hunter <rphunter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: I feel unclean
On 11/22/2017 10:57 AM, Sailfish wrote:
My bloviated meandering follows what Ron Hunter graced us with on
11/21/2017 11:57 PM:
Considering that the memory cycle times, amount of memory, and online
storage, and that many of today's smartphones have from 6 to 8
processors, I am quite sure they could run rings and circles around
anything available in 1969. I was in commercial data processing at the
time, and we were using 16k memory IBM 1440 machines! Later got an IBM
360/30, which had 64K of memory, with a cycle time of 2ms! Yep, I think
todays smartphones could handle it.
It would be an interesting comparison to test. The inertial navigation
system alone, as I understand it, was heavily hardware-based, as were
many of the other systems. Could a smartphone of today's processing
power handle a moonshot using mostly its RISC processor(s)?
On 11/21/2017 5:08 PM, Rav wrote:
On 11/21/2017 4:40 PM, Ron Hunter wrote:
On 11/21/2017 2:20 PM, Sailfish wrote:
My bloviated meandering follows what The Real Bev graced us with on
11/21/2017 11:32 AM:
Not me. Still back with the 48K with 192K floppies. Grin. And I
thought THAT was lots of RAM and disk space. First computers I
operated for the USAF had 4.8K of RAM, and card storage! But the
OS was only 256bytes! The good old days.
Modems operated at a blazing 300 baud, which yielded about 30
characters/second. Now I get 8MB/S! Progress!
I swore I wasn't going to update from 52ESR/linux, but I was
curious about whether it would speed up the
slow-as-pushing-rocks-uphill facebook scrolling as well as making
it possible to view facebook videos.
You, like many of us, are still living in Bill "640K Ought to be
Enough for Anyone" Gates 1989 universe.
I'm ashamed to say that yeah, it does speed up FB, but it doesn't
help with the videos. So now I have 52 open for general browsing
and 57 (which I will hold my nose and allow to update) for FB and
Chrome for whatever the FFs won't do.
Fortunately HD space is cheap. My 8TB drive is split into 1TB
partitions (lots of backups), and my actual installation is only
My new android phone has 64GB internal memory and a 64GB external
card. Plenty of room there too.
I'm getting sloppy.
Back when we used acoustic couplers in the early '70s (modems didn't
exist because at that time the Bell System didn't allow anything to
be direct connected to their network), the stated rate was 110 baud
(about 10 cps). But since we were using IBM 2741 terminals (which
were basically souped up IBM Selectric typewriters), much of the time
there was an effective rate of about 3-4 characters per second,
because it took one "character" transmission to turn the typeball 180
degrees to prepare to print an upper-case (or special) character, one
to actually print that character, and another "character" to turn the
typeball back to the lower-case characters. Plus, a lot of "idle"
characters had to be inserted when a line was done printing, so that
the typeball didn't start printing the next line while it was
returning to the left margin, slowing things down even further! When
30 cps dot-matrix terminals arrived, we thought we were in heaven.
Lots of amusing things from back in those days. Consider the amazing
processing power, and memory, and storage of my iPhone 7, compared to
the computers that NASA used to send the Apollo missions to the moon!
However, that's not saying that today's smartphones processing power
isn't phenomenal, they are and I stand in awe whenever I stare at mine
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