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Re: Fraud/stupidity/something else?

On 1/08/2017 10:34 PM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-08-01 06:26, Daniel wrote:
On 1/08/2017 8:44 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
On 07/31/2017 01:30 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
The Real Bev wrote:
This morning I got an email from Ava's Flowers in Mahwah NJ responding
to a message I sent them using the email address I use for the mozilla
groups (I add the +moz).  Why would anybody do such a thing,
someone who just used my address without changing/thinking?

I get stuff like this all the time at my main address, but this is the
first time I could point the finger at somebody who reads these

Direct mail advertising entities get/buy mailing lists from all
sorts of
'services'.  Such services including spamlists acquire addresses in
every conceivable manner, including malware which is capable of
harvesting email addresses from user storage.

A user who corresponds with the moz group or list can store your
in hir Sent folder in the body of a reply to you, and that address can
be harvested and make its way to a spamlist purchased by Ava's

Ava's is a family owned business expanding from local NJ storefront
to a
much larger national wholesaler, so they would use all manner of
marketing advice.

Also, the moz lists are carried on GG where your address here is
published only mildly munged by removing the +moz part.

<sigh>  The +moz part IS a mung so that maybe I'll know where my address
was harvested.   Not that it does a lot of good.

Hey, Bev, I'll go you one better ..... over the last week or so,
"I've", apparently, sent myself several SPAM messages .... from my
real, ISP provided, email address to my real, ISP provided, email

Don't know how many others "I've" sent them to!! If anyone here is
receiving them .... sorry!!

Time to change the password(s).

BTW, it' easy to generate email addresses that will be the sames some
real person's address. The email providers "suggest" an address when you
sign up, these follow a fairly obvious formula, and most people don't
change them before hitting Done. So a script to produce them is a
doddle. Then just mass-mail, most of them will be valid.

FWIW, One of my addresses is the ISP-suggested one....

Yeah, I think my ISP originally offered an e-mail address of the form firstname.familyname@.... but I thought that was too common, so went for my four initials instead!!


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