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Re: [Mingw-users] msvcrt printf bug




On 2/5/2017 10:29 AM, Emanuel Falkenauer wrote:
> Hi KHMan,
>
> [...]
>> The phrasing in Rick Regan's articles may mislead some folks.
>
> I can't help to interpret your "folks" as derogatory and patronizing,
> but anyway...

Keith Marshall was way more blunt, nobody complained, not even a peep.

I carefully write a diplomatic sentence about an issue we disagree 
about, you jump all over me.

Just who is always channeling all the "derogatory and patronizing" 
vibe anyway?

>> [...]
>>
>> Articles by R Regan, B Dawson, etc. discusses where are some exact
>> tick marks on a line of all floating point values. These tick
>> marks are the exact values of the binary formats of floating point
>> floats and doubles. This concept is only useful if your value is
>> precisely on a tick mark -- an artificial condition that can only
>> be meaningfully enforced in mathematical studies like what they
>> are doing.
>
> Well, if BY DEFINITION their "tick marks" are exactly where a binary
> float can EVER fall, how would you construct "your value" that is NOT
> "precisely on a tick mark"? Unless they made a mathematical mistake (I
> admit I didn't read the detail of their papers to spot one), your
> objection has simply no sense whatsoever.

A value can be somewhere on the line (say I want to store 0.1), 
its closest IEEE binary representation is a tick mark. That tick 
mark is not exactly 0.1, but very close. It's approximate. Then I 
calculate A*A. I get something very close to 0.01. When rounded 
appropriately, I might get 0.01. It's approximate.

Well, I read postings by Keith, Earnie, Eli, Peter, Mitch, etc. -- 
I think this one side is all on the same page on floating-point.

I really don't know how else we can explain things to the other side.

> Lo and behold: contrary to popular belief of some "folks", not all
> mathematicians are loonies who have no idea how real world (e.g.
> computers) work.  ;-)
>
> Best,
>
> Emanuel
>
> [...]

-- 
Cheers,
Kein-Hong Man (esq.)
Selangor, Malaysia


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