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Re: [Mingw-users] msvcrt printf bug

On 1/19/2017 8:36 AM, Keith Marshall wrote:
> On 18/01/17 23:34, Emanuel Falkenauer wrote:
> [snip snip]
>> I would LOVE to use _your_ printf... but remember: the whole story is
>> about comparing with Borland builds, where it's not available.
> Well, you are always likely to be on a hiding to nothing, when
> you compare apples with oranges, and expect identity -- in this
> case, how can you possibly expect consistency between Borland's
> proprietary (likely undisclosed) algorithm and A. N. Other's?
> If you want guaranteed consistency, you'd better use identically
> the same algorithm; what's to stop you compiling, and using, our printf() in your Borland builds, in place of their proprietary
> alternative?

Heh, I'm enjoying this thread, just kicking back now. :-) Once 
Bruce's blog post was disclosed it became obvious what Tei locked 
onto. Before that we were just guessing.

Totally worries me that some embedded and aerospace folks have 
this kind of viewpoint. Often engineering folks are left to take 
up programming on their own devices and sometimes they end up 
grasping stuff in idiosyncratic ways. They can be very stubbornly 
sure of their views...

I think Emanuel should seriously bite the bullet and use David 
Gay's code. It's the de facto standard among Open Source projects 
and probably many, many closed source projects or commercial apps 
all over the planet. It's probably much faster than an 
implementation of a basic conversion algorithm. Versions of it has 
accumulated over 25 years of usage in countless machines. All that 
is needed is just a one-time porting effort to your company's 
standards. After all, in the end it's just an ASCII representation 
ULP issue, CPU calcs were just fine. Just as nobody got fired for 
using IBM, it is hard to say that using well-used code from Bell 
Labs is bad decision-making. Looks like a no-brainer to me.

Kein-Hong Man (esq.)
Selangor, Malaysia

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