Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing
- Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 22:37:52 +0200
- From: Jann Horn <jannh@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:04 PM Nadav Amit <namit@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On May 31, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jann Horn <jannh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:29 PM Nadav Amit <namit@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> [ +Jann Horn ]
> >>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:36:44PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> >>>> When we flush userspace mappings, we can defer the TLB flushes, as long
> >>>> the following conditions are met:
> >>>> 1. No tables are freed, since otherwise speculative page walks might
> >>>> cause machine-checks.
> >>>> 2. No one would access userspace before flush takes place. Specifically,
> >>>> NMI handlers and kprobes would avoid accessing userspace.
> > [...]
> >> A #MC might be caused. I tried to avoid it by not allowing freeing of
> >> page-tables in such way. Did I miss something else? Some interaction with
> >> MTRR changes? I’ll think about it some more, but I don’t see how.
> > I don't really know much about this topic, but here's a random comment
> > since you cc'ed me: If the physical memory range was freed and
> > reallocated, could you end up with speculatively executed cached
> > memory reads from I/O memory? (And if so, would that be bad?)
> Thanks. I thought that your experience with TLB page-freeing bugs may
> be valuable, and you frequently find my mistakes. ;-)
> Yes, speculatively executed cached reads from the I/O memory are a concern.
> IIRC they caused #MC on AMD. If page-tables are not changes, but only PTEs
> are changed, I don’t see how it can be a problem. I also looked at the MTRR
> setting code, but I don’t see a concrete problem.
Can the *physical memory range* not be freed and assigned to another
device? Like, when you mess around with memory hotplug and PCI hotplug?