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Re: [kde] interesting comment from a poster on phoronix




On Friday, 2015-09-04, 11:36:07, ianseeks wrote:
> On Thursday 20 Aug 2015 14:06:34 Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > On Thursday, 2015-08-20, 10:37:59, ianseeks wrote:
> > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=KDE-Applications-15.0
> > > 8
> > > 
> > > >> "Ahead of the Plasma 5.4 release later this month and after last
> > > >> week's
> > > >> KDE
> > > >> Frameworks 5.13 release is KDE Applications 15.08."
> > > >> 
> > > >> How am I supposed to keep track of these things?!
> > > 
> > > Thats a lot of numbers to keep your eye on when reading about KDE
> > 
> > From my point of view these kind of comments are very close to troll
> > territory.
> > 
> > So there is one version for KDE's desktop product and one version for
> > *all*
> > application products.
> > 
> > How do users of vendors cope who do not release all their applications in
> > one go?
> > 
> > How, for example, do users of Microsoft Office cope with the "problem"
> > that
> > Windows has a different version number than Office?
> > Are they in panic when Skype does not share the version of one of these
> > two? Are they close to dispair when .Net or Visual Studio bring in even
> > more version numbers to the mix?
> > 
> > Assuming they cope just fine, only keeping track of versions of products
> > they themselves use, why would users of KDE software be incapable of doing
> > the same?
> > For sure users of KDE software have the same intelectual capacity as users
> > of Microsoft software, do they not?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin
> 
> FYI only.
> 
> i thought you'd might like another example of people being confused about
> releases etc.
> 
> this is the content of an email that just appeared on opensuse-kde list
> 
> subject:
> [opensuse-kde] How do i switch to KDE 5 / plasma 5 / KF 5 or whatever it's
> called now
> 
> content:
> Hi,
> 
> how can I switch to KDE5? Or is it called Plasma 5? or KF5?
> I'm running openSUSE 13.2 with KDE 4...

Right, I think we all agree that there are people who conflate vendor and its 
products, e.g. on the Windows side those running "Microsoft 10".

For them having different names will be confusing, since they don't understand 
that one name is the vendor (e.g. KDE, Microsoft), another one designates a 
certain product (e.g. Plasma, Windows) and yet another one designates even 
another product (e.g. KF, .Net).

This confusion is of course proliferated if the media uses all these names 
within the same article, even when the content is only related to one.

Like in the Phoronix article, which has a release of KDE Applications as its 
topic but for no apparent reasons[1] needs to mention the current version two 
of KDE's other products, one even being developer oriented.

When was the last time you read an article about, say Microsoft Office, and 
the author feeling the need to mention that Windows is at version 10 and .Net 
is at 4.6?

Cheers,
Kevin

[1] in the case of Phoronix the reason is to link to older articles for more 
page views
-- 
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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