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Re: [kde] interesting comment from a poster on phoronix




On Thursday, 2015-08-20, 17:02:45, O.Sinclair wrote:
> On Thursday 20 August 2015 2:55:02 PM Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > On Thursday, 2015-08-20, 14:28:28, O.Sinclair wrote:
> > > On Thursday 20 August 2015 2:06:34 PM Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > > > So there is one version for KDE's desktop product and one version for
> > > > *all*
> > > > application products.
> > > > 
> > > > How do users of vendors cope who do not release all their applications
> > > > in
> > > > one go?
> > > > 
> > > > How, for example, do users of Microsoft Office cope with the "problem"
> > > > that
> > > > Windows has a different version number than Office?
> > > > Are they in panic when Skype does not share the version of one of
> > > > these
> > > > two? Are they close to dispair when .Net or Visual Studio bring in
> > > > even
> > > > more version numbers to the mix?
> > > > 
> > > > Assuming they cope just fine, only keeping track of versions of
> > > > products
> > > > they themselves use, why would users of KDE software be incapable of
> > > > doing the same?
> > > > For sure users of KDE software have the same intelectual capacity as
> > > > users
> > > > of Microsoft software, do they not?
> > > 
> > > In all honesty it is a bit confusing and your comparison does not quite
> > > hold as MS Office is an application you choose/buy, not part of the
> > > whole package so to speak. I am just beginning to get the whole concept
> > > myself but of course different release dates, different numbering and
> > > so on does not help.
> > 
> > I am afraid I do not follow.
> > 
> > MS Office is an application bundle that you can or can not choose/buy.
> > KDE Applications is an application bundle that you can or can not choose.
> > 
> > So the difference is that you buy one and not the other?
> > 
> > What about Skype then? As far as I know it is still gratis.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin
> 
> Am not sure why you keep dragging Microsoft into this but I can safely
> assure there are users (I know cause I support quite a few of them) who
> have no inkling of the difference between Microsoft Windows and Microsoft
> Office.

I am using Microsoft as an example for a vendor with more than one product who 
also uses different versions, even also uses different version schemes for its 
products.

While I do not myself frequent forums that discuss released of Microsoft 
software, I would be surprised if they also see these regular "oh my god, this 
different versions are so complicated" comments.

But maybe I am wrong and this happens for every vendor.

> The issue being raised via the forum post and later comments is rather that
> the current versioning system can be confusing even to some of us who have
> been around since KDE 3.

I can relate to the date based version scheme being uncommon and confusing, 
but the Plasma version should be pretty straight forward, no?

I guess people hoped that the date based scheme was already popular enough due 
to being used by Ubuntu to not be confusing anymore, but maybe a single 
incrementing number would have been even better.

Cheers,
Kevin
-- 
Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer
KDE user support, developer mentoring

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