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Re: [kde] K-Menu - High-lighting a bit too subtle

On 11/08/14 13:27, Duncan wrote:
Bogus Zaba posted on Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:29:08 +0100 as excerpted:

It was Kickoff I was talking about, so your advice (above) on this was
relevant. The only problem is that although changing the theme
(including changing it just for "Kickoff" using the details tab),
changes various aspects of the display, the one thing that remains
constant for all themes I have tried is the method of highlighting the
items under the cursor. This is done by drawing two light grey lines
above and below the item to be highlighted (on a white background).
OK, now that I know it's kickoff you're looking at, I actually did some
experimenting, and found out that it's actually only the kickoff frame
that's affected by the plasma/workspace theme.

The good news is that I found out what to change to change the kickoff
menu highlighting.  The bad news is that changing that changes some other
things too, and at least here, some of those things I want light and some
dark, which makes for a challenge, to say the least.

The setting is actually in kde's main colors, found in kde system
settings, common appearance and behavior, application appearance.

Once there, I *STRONGLY* recommend reading the help text (also available,
if installed, in khelpcenter, system settings modules, colors), because
there's a two-dimensional color organization, sets vs roles, that
definitely takes some reading and then a bit of experimentation to get
the hang of, but without that reading, the stuff that changes with each
config change will seem almost random and the result will be VERY quick

I certainly see what you mean - having read through the help a couple of times I think I understand it very slightly better than before... Not sure if I could explain it to anybody else though.

Once you've read the help text and at least have an idea of what color
sets and roles are all about, then it's time to try to change this,
without making something else too horribly wrong.

First, if you've changed anything else from whatever color scheme you
started with, you should probably save your changes to a new scheme that
you can always reset to if you don't like how the changes ended up.  If
not, first just make sure you know what scheme you're on so again you can
reset back to it.  With that done...

Switch to the colors tab.

There are two ways to set the particular setting we're after.  It's
available as either common colors, selection background, or selection
set, normal background.

The kickoff menu background, meanwhile, is available as common colors,
view background, or as view set, normal background.

So yes, I can make some changes here and, as you suggest, if you make sure that the side-effects are not too drastic those changes could even be described as improvements. Played only with the desktop PC so far and the one on which they problem was most
annoying was the laptop so I will move onto that tomorrow.

So you have a selection set, normal background, set off on a view set,
normal background.  Change either one to contrast with the other, hit
apply, and you should immediately see the effect on the kickoff menu.

The problem is everything else that's affected as well.  Major parts of
most windows will be view background, so changing it changes a lot.
Selection background should be a bit easier to change since it's only
used in the less common selection context, but be sure to select some
text in some window somewhere (the khelpcenter window is a good place, if
you still have it open) and be sure the effect isn't worse than the one
you're fixing in kickoff.

Many thanks for your help on this. Doubt if I would have got there by clicking away at the
System Settings menus.

btw How come you've stopped providing your standard paragraph which we all came to enjoy over several years about "System Settings" being the wrong name for that KDE module??

Thanks again


Dr Bogumil N Zaba

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