Re: [kde-linux] KF5 TimeZone problem
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 06:13:28 +0000 (UTC)
- From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@xxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [kde-linux] KF5 TimeZone problem
James Tyrer posted on Tue, 05 Apr 2016 11:06:08 -0700 as excerpted:
> When I start the KDE4 desktop with available applications replaced with
> KF5 ones (including KDE PIM), I get this error box [attached].
> I see discussion about this on the web but no real conclusion of what
> the problem is or how to fix it.
The dialog says:
Time zones are not accessible:
KAlarm will use the UTC time zone.
(The KDE time zone service is not available:
check that ktimezoned is installed.)
I don't use anything kdepim related at all, as I found alternatives when
they jumped the akonadi shark.
For the components of KF5/Plasma5/KA5 I am running, including the plasma
desktop, I'm actually running live-git versions now, directly following
upstream development. Gentoo has a package that installs a script that
can be run to check what live packages actually have upstream updates,
such that it updates them only, skipping the live packages that haven't
had any new commits since the last run. That makes it far easier to run
live versions, and I take full advantage of it for kde and friends. =:^)
And, after it checks for updates and starts rebuilding any live packages
with updates, in another konsole window, for each updating live package,
I run my own script that effectively does a git log ORIG_HEAD.., telling
me what new commits there are, what the commit comment was for each, and
what files changed. Then for any real interesting commits I can invoke
the same script in a slightly different way, feeding it the commit hash,
to effectively do a git show <commit> and get the full commit diff. Tho
I don't often find a commit interesting enough to do that, occasionally I
With that background...
One of the very recent commits, only perhaps three days old at the oldest
(I updated last nite, from only a few days previous, and the commit of
interest was in last nite's pull), fixed what they said was a timezone
related bug in one of the plasma packages (IIRC, in the shipped weather
plasmoid, as they're doing a number of changes to it ATM). Based on the
comment, it had hard-coded UTC before as well.
So filling in the blanks from that, it would appear that either the
required framework wasn't ready yet so apps that used it hardcoded UTC,
or it was but it was bugged and only UTC was reliable/available, so
that's what was used.
That would appear to have been fixed, and the live plasma packages I'm
running just got a commit to make use of the fixed framework code now,
but of course it'll be awhile before an actual release includes that
code. (I'm running the live packages corresponding to the tip of the
master branch, not the bugfix release current branch, so unless the
changes are made to the bugfix branch as well, they won't be seen in a
release until a new feature release.)
Assuming kdepim is doing similar, it should be in a release in six months
or so, tho I'm not sure what their release cycle is, and of course don't
know whether they'd put it in a bugfix release or wait for a feature
release, so it could be sooner.
So it would seem to be a known issue with the current release, tho it's
being fixed in master and thus should be fixed in some months, anyway.
Meanwhile, the workaround of continuing to use the kde4 versions of those
specific packages should work fine.
Of course if you have someone following live-git kdepim in comparable
detail to what I am the non-kdepim kde family of packages I do have
installed, they may be able to give you more kdepim-specific detail, but
I found it real interesting that you posted this today, when I only saw
that in the commit logs from yesterday's update, and that the previously
forced UTC behavior matched so perfectly to what your dialog, from an
entirely different set of kde packages I don't even have installed, said.
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