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Re: [kde-linux] "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service files"

On 08/03/2013 04:15 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote:
On Saturday, 2013-08-03, James Tyrer wrote:
On 08/02/2013 03:22 AM, Duncan wrote:
Kevin Krammer posted on Fri, 02 Aug 2013 09:37:46 +0200 as excerpted:

Nobody has. D-Bus service files are for services that want to be D-Bus
activated, i.e. started by D-Bus if a message is sent to their well
known name.

This is very handy for on-demand services, since any application using
them doesn't have to care about whether it is running or not.

kded has been around for way longer than that, it is started by code in
KDE core libraries. In a KDE session that would happen as part of
startkde's working.

I guess adding a D-Bus service file doesn't hurt for such cases that
kded went away unexpectantly.

Thanks for the explanation.  Makes perfect sense.

Well, not perfect sense.  Remember, the code is calling this file -- the
one that isn't there -- and generating error messages specifically
complaining that that file is missing.

I already explained in the other part thread but for completness :)
The code inside the D-Bus daemon that is looking for this file is not
triggered explicitly but just the way D-Bus activation was designed to work.
In cases such as this, when a non-activatable recipient is being addressed, it
unfortunately creates log output that can be mistaken for an error message.
A false positive so to speak.

It might be possible that the D-Bus daemon has config to suppress logging of
failed activation attemps, since it is mostly a diagnostic tool to check when
services don't start that are supposed to start.

No, this was printed as an error message. I opened applications, in this case: Rekonq & Plasma-Desktop from a Konsole so I could see any error messages. I wasn't concerned about the message being printed to the console. I was concerned about the fact that things weren't working correctly.

There were errors, not just this message being printed. I could not login to my stock broker in Konqueror or Rekonq and CrossOver was unusable.

I will try to be 100% clear about this. I added the file and both the message _and_ the problems went away simultaneously. I have no question that it was cause and effect -- that adding the file fixed the problems.

I am the first one to admit that I am a bit puzzled about this. However, it does appear that in some circumstances (non-nominal circumstances) the file is necessary. Since I am unable to replicate the problems, I do not know what the file actually needs to contain. I just made the standard file with the name and the executable path.

I can only say that KDELibs should install the standard file:


James Tyrer

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