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Re: [kde-linux] "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service files"




James Tyrer posted on Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:04:49 -0700 as excerpted:

> On 08/01/2013 02:45 PM, James Tyrer wrote:
>> Yes, I checked and there is no file:
>>
>> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.kded.service
>>
>> So, what is the problem?  Is there a package that I failed to install
>> that contains this file, or is this an erroneous error message?
>>
>> It appears to cause other problems.  When KDE starts up, there are two
>> error message.  First that the kded daemon crashed and then that
>> something couldn't find the ktimezoned daemon.
>>
> It appears to be the general cause of the time zone problem:
> 
> rekonq(13587)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned
> initialize() D-Bus call failed:  "The name org.kde.kded was not provided
> by any .service files"

That would be expected if kded crashed, since it's the mechanism by which 
kde apps get configuration change notifications and likely the mechanism 
the timezone daemon plugs into.

I have a similar "not provided by any .service files" error here, but 
it's for something rather less critical then kded (I don't remember 
exactly what).

Meanwhile, here's the content of my /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ dir, 
courtesy bash autocomplete (the .keep_* file is an artifact of gentoo's 
packaging system):

.keep_sys-apps_dbus-0                   
org.freedesktop.xesam.searcher.service
org.kde.fontinst.service                org.kde.knotify.service
org.kde.krunner.service                 vandenoever.strigi.service


And here's a relevant grep and its results:

$>>grep org.kde. /usr/share/dbus-1/services/*
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.fontinst.service:Name=org.kde.fontinst
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.knotify.service:Name=org.kde.knotify
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.krunner.service:Name=org.kde.krunner


So there's three org.kde.* services listed, but none of them are 
org.kde.kded.

Meanwhile, the kded4 binary is provided here by the kdelibs package, but 
while that package installs a bunch of files to 
/usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/, it does NOT install anything to the 
services subdir, only interfaces.

In interfaces, however, there is a file org.kde.kded.xml, which contains 
an <interface name="org.kde.kded"> entry, with a bunch of nested 
methods.  Might it be /that/ file that's missing or corrupted on your 
system?

FWIW, kde-4.11-live-branch installed here, tho I've not updated for a 
couple weeks (14 days and a few hours according the the warning I got 
when I did some package database queries researching this).

Meanwhile, in kde settings, system administration, startup and shutdown, 
service manager... I don't seem to see the timezone daemon listed any 
longer, tho I definitely remember seeing it not too long ago, probably in 
4.10.x.  So I can't track it down for you, tho I don't know for sure 
whether its disappearance is due to kde 4.11 changes or due to my 
uninstalling a few more kde components I no longer need.  I DO know there 
were some major changes in solid and related dependencies there for 4.11, 
as that was only installed as a dependency of something else in earlier 
versions (I didn't install it on its own), and nothing depended on it any 
more after the upgrade to the 4.11 betas and then live-branch, so I was 
able to uninstall it.  But whether that's related to the disappearance of 
the timezone daemon or not, I can't say for sure. 

Tho looking at the contents of an old kde 4.9 solid package I'm still 
using on my far less frequently updated netbook, I don't see anything 
related to timezones in solid there, so it would appear not to be solid 
related.

Actually... looking at those old 4.9 packages, I have a ktimezoned 
package there that's missing on my 4.11 install, so the dependency has 
definitely been dropped from whatever I have currently installed on my 
main machine running 4.11-branch.

Meanwhile, both 4.9 and 4.11 kdelibs packages have a dbus-1/interfaces/ 
subdir, but NOT a dbus-1/services subdir, so if that has changed, it's a 
change in some other package, despite kdelibs containing kded4.

One other file I see of interest: /usr/share/kded4/servicetypes/
kdedmodule.desktop.  It's in both 4.9 and 4.11 kdelibs packages.

-- 
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