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Re: Upcoming change to mail infrastructure -> SPF still broken





Am 04.07.2018 um 12:38 schrieb Ben Cooksley:
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> did you also notice and fix the long outstanding bugzilla SPF problems
>> within your own infrastructure before make checks even sharper?
>>
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392685
>>
>> there are at leat *three* problems:
>> * the notify mails have the envelope-sender of the reoprter
>> * postbox.kde.org don't skip SPF checks from bluemchen.kde.org
>> * the SPF can not match because bluemchen.kde.org is not
>>   in the reporters SPF
>> * finally you send backscatter-bounces for each and every
>>   mail back to the reporter that the notify to the others
>>   was rejected by postbox.kde.org and so reports don't get attention
>> ----------------
>> * don't use reporters enevlope sender to begin with
>> * don't SPF check inbound mail within the own infrastructure
>> * don't backscatter to the innocent reporter
>> ----------------
>> <kde-bugs-dist@xxxxxxx>: host postbox.kde.org[46.4.96.248] said: 550
>> 5.7.23 <kde-bugs-dist@xxxxxxx>: Recipient address rejected: Message
>> rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
>> http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=lists@xxxxxxxxxx;ip=208.118.235.41
> 
> I'd be curious to know when you observed that, as I can find no trace
> of such a message being carried by Bluemchen in recent times for that
> address aside from one which was successfully delivered to you on Jun
> 29 at 17:14:37 UTC

NOW!

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=392685#c1

"such a message being carried by Bluemchen in recent times for that
address aside from one which was successfully delivered to you on Jun 29
at 17:14:37 UTC" - yeah - when somebody *else* makes a comment i get
that notify but when i write a brugreport or comment a get that damned
backscatters below

-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Datum: Wed,  4 Jul 2018 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
Von: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: lists@xxxxxxxxxx

This is the mail system at host bluemchen.kde.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<sheedy@xxxxxxx>: host postbox.kde.org[2a01:4f8:140:8302::4] said: 550
5.7.23 <sheedy@xxxxxxx>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected
due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=lists@xxxxxxxxxx
ip=2001:4830:134:8::100;r=<UNKNOWN> (in reply to RCPT TO command)


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Datum: Wed,  4 Jul 2018 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
Von: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: lists@xxxxxxxxxx

This is the mail system at host bluemchen.kde.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<sysadmin@xxxxxxx>: host postbox.kde.org[2a01:4f8:140:8302::4] said: 550
5.7.23 <sysadmin@xxxxxxx>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected
due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=lists@xxxxxxxxxx;ip=2001:4830:134:8::100;r=<UNKNOWN>
(in reply to RCPT TO command)


-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
Betreff: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
Datum: Wed,  4 Jul 2018 06:47:52 -0400 (EDT)
Von: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
An: lists@xxxxxxxxxx

This is the mail system at host bluemchen.kde.org.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

                   The mail system

<kde-bugs-dist@xxxxxxx>: host postbox.kde.org[2a01:4f8:140:8302::4]
said: 550 5.7.23 <kde-bugs-dist@xxxxxxx>: Recipient address rejected:
Message rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=lists@xxxxxxxxxx;ip=2001:4830:134:8::100;r=<UNKNOWN>
(in reply to RCPT TO command)