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Re: Kaffeine bugreport complaint

Some people are using that and the patch obviously is a FIX.

It has been mentioned that it will take weeks until the proposed way
would be available.
Until then the code in question is uninitialized.

There is absolutely no reason to not fix it.
This code has been unmaintained for years but it is still getting
picked up by distributions.
It is worth nothing to point out that now all the distributions who
pull this version have to fix it (while it worked with the version
before Mauro has touched it).

We manufacture devices and support not only Linux. I think everyone
should be happy if manufacturers directly support linux (regardless of
opensource or not - those who don't like it aren't forced to buy
And those devices are available since 2008 as well.
Kaffeine is the only project having problems at the moment, all other
ones directly query /dev/dvb directly and they have no problem.

That said if this is the attitude of the KDE project in general please
let me know it should also be a good lesson for other manufacturers to
avoid digging into KDE projects and just support other projects.

As mentioned the bugfix is 3 lines, any sane person would just add it
everything else is absolute nonsense.
The noise this has to generate is just unbelievable.

Best Regards,
Markus Rechberger

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 8:23 PM, ChALkeR <chalkerx@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> For reference, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365083#c11 lists purely
> technical issues with the proposed approach, and that serves as valid
> (technical) reasons for not accepting the proposed patch.
> 2016-08-10 21:14 GMT+03:00 Daniel Nicoletti <dantti12@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> Hi,
>> I had the tedious reading of the bug report and IMHO it's a
>> valid WONTFIX, if I were the maintainer I wouldn't fix.
>> The maintainer is going to DROP that code to rely on the work
>> of another library, so why fixing it?
>> I might agree that the patch looks simple and doesn't looks like
>> it's going to break things, but it's not my code.
>> I'd say you can do 3 things.
>> 1. Fork the thing
>> 2. Make sure libdvd can detect you card (I'd go with this so others can
>> benefit)
>> 3. Ask your downstream distribution to keep the patch, this
>> is the option that might be easier for you and downstream
>> have to do this kind of stuff all the time...
>> It worth nothing coming to this mailing list to complain about
>> a maintainer, he does that for free and we won't fire him.
>> Any KDE developer can push the fix but that's not polite, unless
>> he is not an active maintainer we could do it.
>> 2016-08-10 14:11 GMT-03:00 Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > there is a bug, and a fix available but the maintainer won't fix it
>> > due personal issues
>> > I have asked him kindly at least several times even before
>> > participating in bugzilla to fix this issue, that's why I'm not
>> > friendly at all to that guy anymore.
>> >
>> > The bug is even caused by him.
>> >
>> > The fix is a 3liner and available in the bugzilla
>> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365083
>> >
>> > Can someone else commit this fix and resolve the issue?
>> > Basically it was added in 2014 and he broke it a few weeks ago.
>> >
>> > I'd really appreciate if someone could just jump in and fix it. The
>> > fix is so ridiculous small and is getting way more attention than it
>> > should.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Markus
>> --
>> Daniel Nicoletti
>> KDE Developer - http://dantti.wordpress.com