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Re: The situation of KWallet, and what to do about it?




Hello,

On Monday, 11 July 2016 21:58:34 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On 07.07.2016 19:50, Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > There's two sides to that problem in fact, use from applications and the
> > service provided by our workspace.
> > 
> > I think that for applications the answer is neither KSecretService nor
> > KWallet, etc. For the goal of making it easier for our applications to be
> > shipped on more platforms, what we want in fact is to port them away from
> > anything platform specific to something like QtKeyChain:
> > https://inqlude.org/libraries/qtkeychain.html
> > 
> > This way, the actual storage becomes a workspace decision. That could keep
> > being KWallet if improved, or KSecretService, or a simple D-Bus service
> > wrapping libsecret... For sure it would at least simplify things on the
> > KWallet/KSecretService side, they wouldn't need to be frameworks anymore
> > (QtKeyChain or equivalent would play that role) just to expose a D-Bus API
> > (likely the Secret Service one in the end).
> 
> Oh, indeed, that would absolutely make sense! Deploying and using
> applications which use KWallet outside of Plasma must be a pain right now.

Never tried, but I'd suspect it is indeed.

> So how do we make that happen? Deprecate the KWallet framework and recommend
> to use QtKeyChain instead, and then in parallel decide which bakcend to use
> for QtKeyChain in Plasma?

Probably something like that yes. Note that I'm not sure how active the 
QtKeyChain project is right now, so that might be something to evaluate I 
guess.

> >> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/secret-storage-spec/secre
> >> ts-> api-0.1.html> 
> > 0.1 being outdated, you probably want to link that one:
> > https://standards.freedesktop.org/secret-service/
> 
> Ah yes, indeed.
> 
> > Hope that somewhat made sense and helps.
> 
> It made sense to me at least :)

Regards.
-- 
Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net

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