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Re: Past and future evolution of Gtk+

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Carsten Mattner
<carstenmattner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Igor for the wxWidgets clarification.

After 7 years working with the library, submitting patches to it and
doing development with it I guess I'm "overqualified" to work with it. ;-)

So, does the position requires wx knowledge?


> On 9/18/17, Igor Korot <ikorot01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Carsten Mattner
>> <carstenmattner@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 9/18/17, Ian Chapman <ichapman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> This is not a troll, only a trawler as in fishing boat. I found the
>>>> discourse on “traditional file chooser” quite interesting and
>>>> informative. I'm using glade 3.18.3 and I'm able to do useful work so
>>>> possibly I'm off subject.
>>>> Point 1
>>>> In glade I can select GtkMenuItem and GtkImageMenuItem and when I look
>>>> at the GTK+ 3 Reference Manual the latter is depreciated. It's working
>>>> great so I wonder what depreciated actually implies? At some time in the
>>>> future will it vanish and working software will fail or simply fail to
>>>> compile on the newer distribution?
>>> That's how I interpret it. Case in point Raleigh theme which was never,
>>> from what I can tell, intended to be a replacement for the Gtk2 Raleigh
>>> theme. It didn't look right and now it just looks completely broken.
>>> If something is supposed to be removed, there's no need to make 3.x
>>> seem like it supports it and remove it in 4.x, when the version in 3.x
>>> isn't supported and working by sheer luck. This is what I read from the
>>> info I can gather and not meant to be an attack. I'm just trying to
>>> stitch
>>> together a picture.
>>>> Point 2
>>>> Lots of acronyms were mentioned. Qt was one and it's in the LMDE
>>>> repositories. Wiki has a long list of GUIs in
>>>> “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_widget_toolkits”; but only a few
>>>> could be of interest. In any case there would be a learning curve to use
>>>> any them and maybe no glade which greatly simplifies Gtk for me. Is
>>>> there an evaluation on these alternative GUIs?
>>> With all due respect and apologies to the list admins, allow me to
>>> answer this here although it's kinda advertising for "competitors".
>>> Ian, Qt and FLTK have GUI builders and FLTK generates code, not markup.
>>> Qt is used heavily with the declarative variant QML in entertainment
>>> systems of cars and such. If QML is something that works for you
>>> and the licensing is compatible, then consider a lunch break checking
>>> it out.
>>> If you're writing engineering software that doesn't have requirement
>>> that mandate Qt or Gtk, then FLTK or IUP have been used successfully
>>> in that domain.
>>> Qt has Haskell bindings (Qtah).
>>> wxWidgets has Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt5 backends and bindings pretty much
>>> everywhere, but there's no GUI builder I know of.
>> wxWidgets does have GUI builders - wxGlade, wxFormBuilder, wxCrafter to
>> name a few.
>> It also works on both MS Windows and OSX without any issues.
>> If you requirements are to have a "native look and feel" of the software
>> then wxWidgets is the way to go.
>> The license is free for both O/S and commercial applications.
>> It has bindings for all popular languages - Python, Perl, Ruby.
>> On Linux GTK is the most developed and most mature port.
>> wxQt is relatively new and wxX11 (so called Universal) is not actively
>> developed. wxMotiff is really outdated and will be removed in future
>> versions.
>> Thank you.
>>> FLTK has a GUI builder and the Haskell bindings also generate
>>> Haskell code when using the GUI builder. Just in case you had
>>> interest in a different language.
>>> IUP is plain C and has been used in many brazilian industrial
>>> applications. Check the screenshots section.
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