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Re: GTK+, WM, desktops and CSD




Hey 
More generally said:
To be honest it's quite disturbing to see which design/philosophic ways
especially GNOME but also GTK+ went the recent years.


It seems that the "traditional" desktop model is considered bad and
tried to be replaced wherever possible. Therefore, it's no big surprise
that many people have quite strong feelings towards GNOME(3) and a
desktop model which seems to purely focus on either certain input
devices (which are rather hype than really professionally and especially
universally usable - e.g. tablets) and/or user-groups (seemingly the
most uneducated form of end-user).

And it's also no big surprise that there are quite a number of forks or
alternatives coming up, which better serve the "traditional" desktop
model - which isn't bad per se at all, but actually proven to
effectively work for several decades.


CSDs are IMHO one of the most annoying developments, one where one can
clearly see that GNOME/GTK is doing it's own thing, no longer giving
anything on interoperability with other DEs.

All the programs I already have(/had) that switched to CSDs became
ergonomically basically unusable and went into the can.
Take Epihany as an example, aside the fact that
moving/resizing/accessing the window context menu from non GNOME Shell
DEs got a pain in the arse, the whole design idea of the CSDs seem to be
rather unergonomic.
- Windows no longer have their common joint title bar, by which they can
be handled on the desktop. It's like each window (speaking of the window
itself, not it's content within) would be it's own type, with completely
different interface, which in turn makes their handling a
non-systematic, and slow since one always must identify and adapt to the
respective window (decorations).
- E.g. the address bar was moved into the decoration area, so whenever I
want to move the window I either accidentally get into the address bar
(which isn't really distinguishable anymore, where it stards/ends, from
the window decoration) and when I want to reach the address bar, I have
to double click or make several tries to actually get into (editing) it.

Take gedit,... everything is nowadays tried to be hidden under few icons
in the CSD area... so for everything where I needed one click in the
past (as was accordingly fast), I need at least two nowadays.
Thanks to a desktop model which seems completely tailored towards
tablets/touchscreens (now how many of us do gedit on their tablet o.O ?)


Don't get me wrong:
- it's okay if you add new things like GNOME added the new desktop model
with GNOME Shell,... many people may not like it and it may be unusable
for professional users... but it's free software and no one can demand
that a developer continues with something if he doesn't like.
- but it's not okay if existing models are abolished for no good reasons
- and it's even less okay if interoperability with other systems is
broken by things like CSDs.


Just my 0,02 €

Best wishes,
Chris.

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