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Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

Quoting Patrick Bartek (2019-05-27 03:49:06)
> Needing to convert this box from wired ethernet to wireless, I 
> searched for a suitable network manager and wicd looked good: No 
> desktop environment dependencies (I use a window manager Openbox and 
> single lxpanel), compatibility with Openbox, etc.

[ unneeded systemd details snipped ]

> After more investigating, I came across wifi-radar whose simulated 
> install doesn't muck my system.  Any suggestions for something better?  
> I could just go with iwconfig or iw?  No big deal.  I've done it 
> before.  But being lazy, if I can find an app to do the work, so much 
> the better.

Here are the options I know of which provides a UI with wifi strength 
and being more lightweight than network-manager, listed in order of 
personal preference for install on Buster (some, iwd in particular, is 
notably less mature on Stretch):

iwd is extremely lightweight console-only tool yet provides interactive 
probing of wifi strength.  It integrates fine with network-manager and 
systemd if a) explicitly telling those systems to use it and b) 
explicitly turned off wpasupplicant.

connman is in my experience more reliable than wicd but looks ugly.

wicd felt unreliable in my experience - but possibly I didn't give it 
enough attention (see above about disabling wpasupplicant).

iw + wifi-radar if all else fails. :-)

 - Jonas

P.S. At first I skipped this excellent question due to it being 
presented as a rant about systemd.  I dearly recommend to _avoid_ mixing 
rants with questions, as you then are more likely to miss valuable 

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