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Re: buildd and buildbot




On Sunday 19 May 2019 10:26:15 am David Wright wrote:

> On Sun 19 May 2019 at 02:24:20 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 May 2019 03:40:54 pm Cousin Stanley wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >> https://forum.pine64.org/forumdisplay.php
> > > >
> > > > Their object is to sell the board, support is very thin to zip.
> > > >
> > > > BTDT, sorry I bought 2 of them.
> > >
> > >   I only have a single rock64 board that I've used
> > >   just for testing to see what they're all about
> > >   and it's curently off-line.
> > >
> > >   It's been quite a while since I've visited the rock64 forum
> > >   but the few times I posted over there, respondents seemed
> > >   to be helpful ....
> > >
> > >   As always one's own proverbial mileage may vary ....
> >
> > I have built several rt-preempt kernels on an ssd plugged into one
> > of my rockk64's. Then asked how to install then because the u-boot
> > thing is new to me. Several times I've asked. Crickets.
> >
> > So yesterday I dd'd a new armbian 5.25 image to a 64Gb card and
> > thought I'd head the networking off at the pass by putting my hosts
> > file on it, and a static defined eth0 file in e/n/i.d as I've been
> > told that N-M won't touch a staticly defined interface. On first
> > boot it took 8 minutes to resize the image to the 64GB u-sd.  Then
> > it upgraded about 250 packages.  So thats good for a reboot so I
> > did. That was the last time the network worked for about 7 hours. 
> > And that pulls my trigger...
> >
> > What I eventually found, because every time I looked at
> > /etc/resolv.conf it was generated by N-M but otherwise blanked.
> > Finally I discovered it was not a link to some cheater file, but a
> > real file! So I nano'd it to read the correct data, and chmod +i
> > immediately so N-M couldn't knock it up again. Stepped into
> > /e/init.d and ./networking restart. Worked, and has been working
> > ever since. I also tried to have apt remove N-M, but apt insists on
> > removing the desktop with it. So the only other thing is to castrate
> > N-M with chmod +i's on the files it wants to change and thereby
> > destroy a working staticly defined home network setup. At some point
> > I'll likely rm the bits and pieces of N-M as I've done that to
> > several older x86, amd64 & armhf distros and the rest of the system
> > has never complained about that angry bull in a china shop going
> > missing. By have resolv.conf search hosts,nameserver, with
> > nameserver defined as my router, its also the gateway, a query that
> > can't be resolved by the hosts file, is sent on thru dd-wrt to the
> > nameservers at my ISP, and it all Just Works. That teeny little
> > connection gui in the upper right corner of the armbian screen is
> > running as me after the first reboot, so it can't change anything
> > and won't even accept the correct data to make a static setup work,
> > and has no facility to ask for a sudo. So its as worthless as the
> > appendages on a bore hogs belly. Why is it even there?
>
> I can't remember just how closely your /e/n/i and resolv.conf
> have evolved to conform with their correct syntax (ISTR you did
> improve them a while back), but I don't feel it's worth taking the
> bull by the horns after seeing others trying to tackle you here.
>
> > ifconfig has been deprecated, but its only crime was that it worked,
>
> I've not noticed any lack of support in Debian beyond not trying to
> fight changes in how it presents its output (which makes it dubious
> for parsing in scripts).
>
> > leaving us with ip, whose man page is written in English, but may as
> > well be swahili. Would it kill the authors mother to include 1 or 2
> > examples to demo how it all fits together so it works instead of
> > spitting out the same identical help screen in swahili every time?
>
> I count 5 examples on 'man ip' and, for the ones I use more
> frequently, 6 on 'man ip-address', 15 for 'man ip-link' 2 for
> 'ip neighbour' and 4 for 'man ip-route'. For manpages, I'd say
> that's pretty good.
>
> > I
> > did, just once, get it to show the routeing table. But thats all I
> > have managed to get out of it in almost 2 years of the 10,000
> > monkeys typing exercise. ip? Needs 7 or 8 arguments just to look at
> > eth0?  Nuke the SOB, and if something was wrong with ifconfig, fix
> > it. I have no patience with solving a 50x50 crossword puzzle just to
> > run that piece of crap. Yeah I'm unhappy, N-M and ip, because I
> > couldn't get any answers out of it, cost me 7 hours yesterday.
>
> I typed   linux ip command   into google and the top hit was
> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-ip-command-examples-usage-syntax/
> which not only has lots of examples, but also a table at the bottom
> showing old and new equivalents. (Perhaps that's where you got
> 'deprecated' from.) The second hit was a two-page cheat sheet.
> https://p5r.uk/blog/2010/ifconfig-ip-comparison.html
> is another conversion kit.
>
> But I think you just enjoy reliving your fights.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

Thank you David, those 2 links are VERY helpfull. For one, they show the 
shortcuts that actually work instead of spitting out the same error/help 
screen forever. I'm going to look around on the first link to see what 
other tuts it may have.

And no, I DON'T enjoy the fight. I have enough on my plate to keep 2 or 3 
people busy since I am also a caretaker for my wife who has late stage 
COPD, and at 75 lbs, managed to pull an Achilles tendon loose about 3 
weeks back. Plus I'm trying to get setup to do some radio engineering 
sorely needed by the small town American radio broadcasters as all the 
other old-timers that used to do it, have just about all died. That 
will, except for the local station, have to wait until I'm alone so I 
can be gone for several days at a time depending on how far away the 
station that needs me is.

As a retired tv Chief Engineer, I'm a rare breed, I have an FCC license, 
and I am also a C.E.T. I don't just replace boxes that don't work, I 
replace parts in the box to make the old one work, sometimes better than 
when it was new. I don't climb towers anymore, but I've looked at most 
of the county from 330 feet up a 509 foot tower, in a wind peaking at 70 
mph. I did what needed to be done.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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