Web lists-archives.com

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster




On Wed 10 Apr 2019 at 19:41:44 (-0400), Lee wrote:
> On 4/10/19, Nazar Zhuk wrote:
> > On 4/10/19 10:58 AM, David Wright wrote:
> >> On Sat 06 Apr 2019 at 08:42:31 (+0100), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:39:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >
> >>>> Given a straight toss-up though, I think synaptic has to give way
> >>>> because
> >>>> there are plenty of alternatives. I'd never heard of it until a few
> >>>> people
> >>>> started mentioning it here, and I'd never consider using it myself on X
> >>>> except
> >>>> as an ordinary user.
> >>>
> >>> The severity of the bug in synaptic (which is what has caused its
> >>> autoremoval)
> >>> would not be "serious" if the default desktop was not Wayland. So
> >>> changing
> >>> *that*, would mean synaptic could be reintroduced.
> >>
> >> So Debian should have its policy dictated by bugs in an unrelated
> >> package. Seems an odd strategy.
> >
> > If a change (Wayland default) is introducing issues to a stable (in a
> > generic sense) system, shouldn't the change be postponed until the
> > issues are resolved? Perhaps with the help from the change proponents.
> 
> My understanding is that
>   sudo synaptic
> not working for anybody other than root is a desired feature of
> Wayland - not something that would or should be fixed.
> 
> But I'm also under the impression that logging in as root & running
> synaptic works, so removing synaptic altogether still seems a bit
> excessive.

I would be surprised if wayland itself, and whatever it's being
supported by, will allow you to run them as root. That's not the
direction things are moving in, securitywise.

Cheers,
David.