Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster
- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:22:29 -0500
- From: David Wright <deblis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster
On Wed 10 Apr 2019 at 19:41:44 (-0400), Lee wrote:
> On 4/10/19, Nazar Zhuk wrote:
> > On 4/10/19 10:58 AM, David Wright wrote:
> >> On Sat 06 Apr 2019 at 08:42:31 (+0100), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:39:23PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >>>> Given a straight toss-up though, I think synaptic has to give way
> >>>> because
> >>>> there are plenty of alternatives. I'd never heard of it until a few
> >>>> people
> >>>> started mentioning it here, and I'd never consider using it myself on X
> >>>> except
> >>>> as an ordinary user.
> >>> The severity of the bug in synaptic (which is what has caused its
> >>> autoremoval)
> >>> would not be "serious" if the default desktop was not Wayland. So
> >>> changing
> >>> *that*, would mean synaptic could be reintroduced.
> >> So Debian should have its policy dictated by bugs in an unrelated
> >> package. Seems an odd strategy.
> > If a change (Wayland default) is introducing issues to a stable (in a
> > generic sense) system, shouldn't the change be postponed until the
> > issues are resolved? Perhaps with the help from the change proponents.
> My understanding is that
> sudo synaptic
> not working for anybody other than root is a desired feature of
> Wayland - not something that would or should be fixed.
> But I'm also under the impression that logging in as root & running
> synaptic works, so removing synaptic altogether still seems a bit
I would be surprised if wayland itself, and whatever it's being
supported by, will allow you to run them as root. That's not the
direction things are moving in, securitywise.