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Re: Docker and Container Tools Podman/Buildah/Skopeo


On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 05:07:00PM +0100, tomas@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > 	Hi.
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 02:26:24PM +0100, plataleas plataleas wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > > 
> > > RedHat announced with RHEL8 that the docker container engine is replaced by
> > 
> > s/RedHat/IBM/g
> > 
> > fixed that for you.
> > 
> > 
> > > What does the Debian community think of this move?
> > 
> > Mixed, but I speak only for myself.
> > On one hand, RedHat is known for its Not-Invented-Here syndrome.
> > Endless re-implementation of known tools can hardly do anyone any good.
> > Also, vendor lock-in and all that.
> You may dislike Redhat all you want (and hey, I've my beefs with them
> too) but they do pay part of the bills (sometimes a significant part!)
> for many things that are dear to our hearts. For example gcc, the GNU
> C library and many friends (binutils, etc.) through their acquisition
> of Cygnus Support (these days called Sourceware) in the 2000s; further
> to the Linux kernel (through many kernel people on RH's paylist -- use
> your own search engine this time ;-) and many, many more things.

Indeed. For instance, RedHat in its infinite wisdom blessed us with
pulseaudio (#worksinfedora), systemd (#notabug), GNOME 3 (#itsmodern),
Network Manager (aka Notwork Mangler), Flatpack (#designedforshovelware)
and many other Finely Designed Programs™.

> Actually more than can be said about Canonical, for example (the latter
> have at least given back to Debian by having Debian Developers on
> payroll, so...)

Canonical's famous for their NIH too. Mir, Unity, LXD - it's a long
list, although RedHat has longer one.

> As for the docker thingies... I get what they are supposed to do. But if
> I can convince someone else to to the dirty work...

Hear, hear.