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Re: What to do about spam in debian-user [was: Your Password Reset Link from CorrLinks]

On Thu 21 Feb 2019 at 16:32:18 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 08:21:00AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 21 February 2019 03:59:37 tomas@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:45:50AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > You can also help us by bouncing (as in mutt) spam to
> > > > report-listspam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > This _might_ be a good idea, if that address took forwards. My incoming 
> > chain does not include the ability to do other than accept, then divert 
> > to /var/mail/virii or /dev/null. But my one attempt to forward to that 
> > address when debians poor spam/viri filters failed often enough to get 
> > my attention several years ago, resulted in its being bounced back to me
> There's a difference between 'Forward' and 'Bounce'. That e-mail is for bounces.
> > Don't give me, or my current ISP a hard time because their spam filtering 
> > is far better ...  using barracuda
> LOL. Did you mean *this* Barracuda - [1]?
> The thing's a best possible example of how you *do not* filter spam
> *ever*.

My mail hosting service uses that, and I think they might have
overreacted to its past (and present?) woes. They filter mail
*from* me between their mail submission host and their gateway
host (which sends it out to the Internet). Recently it has
sometimes taken a couple of days for random emails to make
that passage, and in several instances, emails got stuck.
When I complained about non-delivery, they sent me a listing
showing them sitting in a queue, "Blocked".

Now, if they are refusing to send them out, the service should
be sending them back to me as a rejection with reasons, but
I guess they're afraid of bouncing them at all. They know they
came from me, they host my domain, and they know the emails are
legitimate because they just authenticated the submission.
But they just throw their hands in the air, saying "We didn't
write the rules, we have no control over them."

> [1] http://www.dontbouncespam.org/

BTW I got an email only the other day from this outfit (corr),
asking me if I would become a "friend of a convict". As it was
sent to my deblis address, they had presumably harvested it.
I would have examined it more closely had this item arrived
earlier. The outfit looks relatively local on the scale of
this place (IA).