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Re: logout kills X




On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 10:33:14PM +0000, Brian wrote:

> Bugs filed against X, bash and systemd. Only the much maligned systemd
> [...] has had an analysis and discussion in -systemd. Silence from the X
> and [...] the bash maintaners for 3+ years [...]

I don't know if you are aware of it, but it is an interesting point you
make there: what's the difference between {X, bash} and systemd?

Right, the former are "mature" projects. That means that they are somehow
in maintenance mode: they are most of the time seriously understaffed
(and /if/ there are exciting things happening they are at the "borders",
as in X). This works well for a while -- whenever nothing exciting
happens (mature software, after all). But the world around the software
changes...

Remember OpenSSL and Heartbleed? I claim the underlying pattern is the
same [1].

That can only mean two things: either there's a way to bring "fresh
blood" into mature projects on a regular basis (although it /may/
seem they don't "need" it). Or we have to see projects dying of age
and rotting (with some collateral damage as some infrastructure
is still based on this rotting substrate).

Cheers

[1] Some people saw the light and founded the Core Infrastructure
   Project <https://www.coreinfrastructure.org/>. Seeing through
   the illustrious (and very wealthy) list of sponsors I'm still
   a (fair) bit sceptical -- most of them seem to follow the
   neo-capitalist pattern of squeezing "costs" in all corners which
   don't seem to matter /right now/ (hello, Fukushima?).

-- tomás

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