Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9
- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 23:06:37 +0300
- From: Reco <recoverym4n@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: strangest things after upgrade from 8 to 9
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 02:40:41PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On the other hand, I have done in-place upgrades of Debian on every
Ditto. Worked better than they tell on this list to the newcomers.
This particular installation I'm writing from began its life as etch
back before it was testing.
> save one: when I moved my main personal file server from 32-bit
> to 64-bit after a hardware swap.
Did that one too.
> Debian's upgrade process is rather robust. So much so, that people
> complaining to Red Hat that Debian managed to provide robust in-place
> upgrades since forever
For the sake of the completeness, Red Hat provides a way. It involves
booting from an install CD/DVD with an "upgrade" option. It's
I did it multiple times, end result can be described as 'salvageable'.
> while people paying $$$ for RHEL support
> contracts were always told, "wipe and reinstall" was at least part of
> what moved Red Hat to start providing support for in-place upgrades (at
> least as of RHEL7, if I understand correctly).
Please do not blame support for that.
Those poor (literally) overseas guys and gals have two options then it
comes to such things.
Option A - do it official Red Hat way (i.e. - reinstall).
Option B - suggest a customer to do an unsupported upgrade, and get
blamed/fired for all kinds of inevitable trouble afterwards.
> The problem that people tend to encounter is when they either don't read
> and follow the instructions in the release notes for the new release or
> have packages installed from low quality third party sources.
Or, in this particular case, follow "good old"
> There have been some problematic transitions (e.g., the one involving
> udev was a good example)
That's a *very* x86-centric POV.
For instance, whoever came up with the idea of disabling
CONFIG_COMPACTION on armel/kirkwood between jessie and stretch rendered
armel ununsable on stretch.
And let's do not mention kfreebsd.