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No sound in debian stretch after install.

Hi all,


I brought this up a few years ago, but never got things working at least in stretch.  When installing using either a dvd or net installer, speech is fine, but once the system is installed, there is no sound.  I tried alsamixer thinking that the valume need to be razed, but nothing infact gnome does not even get the pop sound when razing the sound.  I am guessing that the audio may be muted but have no way to check.  Is there a way to fix this without sited help.  I checked the wiki, but nothing current has turned up.  Anyone others ussers had this problem?  Debian testing works fine..  I have tried other iso installers such as 9.1 with the same result.  HTH.  BTW, I am using a virtual machine if this matters.