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Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

On 10/24/18 2:05 PM, Joe wrote:

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400
Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkramer@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote:
Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things
tend to
get hairy.  Dynamic DNS will help, but only to a point.  And, a
lot of
ISPs really don't like it if you run servers at the edge.
We are currently such a small group, I don't think it will be an
issue -- if that changes, we can change.
Which - DynDNS or ISP objections?

The thing about dynamic DNS is that people cache DNS records - mail
sent to the list WILL go to the wrong place on occasion.

Re. ISP objections - those objections sometimes take the form of
active measures that block various kinds of traffic.
Then they're not a proper ISP. I pay for an *Internet* connection, not
just the forwarding of a few ports that are convenient for the provider.

You can argue what constitutes proper or not, if you want a connection with any level of bandwidth, you're talking a major carrier - and they deliver the service that they want to.

Bummer.  But maybe another, larger, Linux user group might help
out?  I expect there might be somebody on this list who might
(hint, hint).  Maybe somebody at a nearby university - I believe
have a few of those in the Lehigh Valley :-)
We've had somebody make such an offer, and we'll probably take them
up on it -- I sort of wanted to try to set up a small mail list on
one of my computers, as long as I didn't have to run a web server
or a *nix style MTA
Now that is kind of hard to do.  All the mailing list servers that
I've worked with require a rather intimate interconnection with the
MTA that processes mail.  And that's before you "wire in" anti-spam
and anti-virus filters.  And, you'll need a webserver for access to
various administrative functions, and archive access.  Depending on
the list server, you might also require a dbms.  Setting up list
services can be an entertaining and educational exercise (also
frustrating), but it's not simple.  (Actually, the simplest approach
is using an MTA and managing lists in the alias file.)
There's no technical problem to using a local MTA and your ISP's SMTP
server as a proxy.

You still need a local MTA - which the OP doesn't seem to want to run.

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