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Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.




On Wed, 30 May 2018 18:53:54 +0100
Brian <ad44@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Wed 30 May 2018 at 00:31:25 +0300, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 29 May 2018 20:39:28 +0100 Brian said:
> >   
> > > If a package is upgraded, surely a user would want any new
> > > packages to be installed if they are required to satisfy
> > > dependencies. apt's designed behaviour looks more sensible than
> > > apt-get's.  
> > 
> > Then removal of blocking packages are equally (if not more)
> > sensible than installing new ones. There is a well designed clear
> > cut distinction between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade. "upgrade"
> > upgrades the system  
> 
> As there is between apt upgrade and apt full-upgrade.
> 
> > non-intrusively, while "dist-upgrade" does that intrusively as its
> > name suggests. OTOH apt upgrade's behavior is in-between,
> > semi-intrusive, and spoils that clear-cut distinction. Therefore I
> > think apt-get works more sensible than apt in this regard.  
> 
> I'm sorry, the "intrusive/non-intrusive" aspect doesn't seem that
> useful to me. After an update, apt can tell you which packages are
> upgradable. That aspect strikes me as being very informative.
> 

This discussion led me to use apt-get again, instead of apt, which I
used to keep stretch installations up to date. The occasion was a
security update notification for the git package.

apt-get update printed 30 lines or so (sorry, I did not save the
output) but mentioned nothing about the need to upgrade.

apt-get upgrade produced no output.

There is nothing in /var/log/apt/term.log or /var/log/apt/history.log
to indicate that apt-get was used.

apt update mentioned 3 packages needing upgrade
apt upgrade processed the 3 packages and /var/log/apt/term.log
and /var/log/apt/history.log show this.

Is the above to be expected and is there some configuration change
needed if I want to use apt-get again?

 -Dan