Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...
- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 18:19:45 -0700
- From: Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 14:27:40 -0400 David Niklas <doark@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700
> Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So
> > why at install time, is there no choice for the init system? You
> > get what the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one --
> > I've done it and it works -- but only after the install. It'd be a
> > lot easier, if there were a choice to begin with just like whether
> > you want a GUI and which one.
> > Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc. But is a
> > choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever
> > considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else.
> > Just curious.
> Because this reply is so late I'm CC'ing you off list.
> I sympathize, I run Gentoo Linux and us OpenRC. I plan on running
> Devuan, a Debain derivative that supports lots of different init
I considered Devuan initially, but it's based off Jessie; is still in
Beta, and in a few months Jessie will be oldstable. Not the criteria
I'm looking for to replace my aging Wheezy system or install on a new
notebook I plan to get soon.
I've looked at other systemd-less Debian-based distros like AntiX and
mx16, but extraordinary measures must be taken to keep them free of
systemd components like using third party repos. And I fear that will
ultimately affect whether they are truly Stable in the Debian
sense. I have no interest in rolling releases. Been there; done that.
Currently, I'm looking into a hybrid-Stretch with the init and
supervisor system I want -- easy enough to do -- disemboweling systemd
and relegating it to an innocous eunuch to satisfy dependencies. That
way I don't need any special repos and update/upgrade will work as it
should. Shows promise right now. More reading needed. I have Plans B
and C just in case.
> systems. Why no one looks at their project and sees the people
> involved when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied
> systemd users I don't know.
That's an argument for another day.
Thanks for your response.