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Re: why??why?why??




Jimmy Johnson:
> On 03/10/2017 12:46 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 09:20:32 -0500 Henning <henning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> Why don't you just custom install to meet your needs?
>>
>>  I did just that  With Wheezy, 5 years ago.  And I got the system I
>> wanted.  But it's not a "forever" solution.  Wheezy support will
>> cease when Stretch becomes Stable.  And along with it support for
>> applications like browsers, too.  Chrome development and support ended
>> last year.  Read Firefox will do the same this year or next.  Don't
>> remember exactly.
>>
>> Nothing is forever.  And I'm looking for a replacement that fits my
>> requirements.
> 
> I replaced Wheezy with Ubuntu 14.04, the first thing I do is $'sudo
> passwd root' after that I feel right at home and can install all the
> software that I use in both Wheezy and Jessie and the theme's too. I see
> no difference in stability. The 14.04 mini.iso is the way to start and
> get the base package and build from there. I build all my systems from
> the base install including this one.

Is this all open?  Is it all free?  If you say yes I'll have to go and
look at what that is.  If you say no, but who cares.  I'll have to say
that, with the very little I know and understand, in a few years after
debian folds, there will be nothing open or free.  There may be some
bootleg old and hacked copies of debian and an Ubuntu license will be
just a little cheaper than an MXS license.  And development in general
will go downhill.

Question, of what I do not know.  If you have Debian 6 (don't recall the
name) with all the backports enabled and up to date, if you download
Firefox51, will it run?

I recently took a look of siduction, which seems basically as sid with
some funkified packages, and some non-free stuff on top, like firmware.
It managed to identify and run some wifi gadget that I never got really
working in debian.  It is beautiful, even some stuff I have hacked
myself to make it work how I want to they have done.  Is it worth it?
How many people right now are looking and studying the code that makes
up the linux-patch?  I have faith that hundreds are scrutinizing the
debian code beyond what debian developers do.

I wouldn't though even would want to ask here  why is my damn debian
installer package not working.  I have studied and installed anything
that I could possibly find out needed to make it run.  It doesn't.
On a different debian based distro, I downloaded and run it and it
worked perfectly.  So I am contradicting my own "political" position.
Debian is not for everyone.  It is a developers' system.  It is a solid
foundation to build systems for those few that know how to do it.

And then there is this other thing.  It is only a few years ago that MS
sold Win7 for big money, for non-commercial home use.  And they are not
even supporting their own web browser to run on that flea-dog.  And I
don't think anything based on w10 will run on 7.  Nobody is asking for
their money back ....... and even if they did ........

Rχ/

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