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Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

On 2017-03-03 at 13:00, Reco wrote:

> 	Hi.
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500
> The Wanderer <wanderer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
>> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
>> Package: systemd-sysv
>> Pin: version *
>> Pin-Priority: -1
>> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
>> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
>> difference.

I want to correct the record on this. When I wrote the above, I was
conflating multiple cases. What I have seen be ineffective is previous
pins, no longer present, against libpam-systemd and related packages; I
don't recall ever seeing anything try to install systemd-sysv in
violation of this pin.

(There are enough legitimate complaints against the systemd ecosystem;
there's no need to hurt the case against such things by throwing in
baseless complaints on top of them.)

> You may want to try somewhat different approach then:
> Package: systemd-sysv
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: -1

I've noted this for later reference; if I ever see the
trying-to-install-packages-pinned-at--1 behavior again, I'll try that

   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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