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Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?




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On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 10:01:17AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> I've been considering Stretch as a clean install or dist-upgrade of my
> aging Wheezy desktop setup as well as to install on a new notebook I've
> yet to decide on.  I don't like systemd (why is unimportant to this
> query). I plan to use some other init system, probably runit.  So ...
> 
> Just how dependent has Stretch's system become on systemd?  I don't
> mean applications or GNOME, etc. with systemd dependency that I can
> choose not to install, but the system itself, the guts, the basics, the
> things and tools it needs to work properly.

I think it's pretty unproblematic. Just the other day there was a
call for testers (by Ian Jackson, no less) for a new SysV init
version targeted at testing (stretch).

I think things didn't change dramatically since Jessie:

  http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_stay_with_sysvinit_in_Debian_Jessie.html
  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Stretch

(and many more). Ignore the "remove" bit if you're installing from
scratch: you can do the apt-pinning thing even before systemd gets
installed (at least I remember that from my last install).

(And btw: it might be a good chance to give Ian feedback on how it
went, hint, hint :)

Regards
- -- tomás
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