Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16
- Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 21:46:10 +0300
- From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Consensus Call: Do We Want to Require or Recommend DH; comments by 2019-06-16
On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 11:14:33PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote:
> Adrian Bunk <bunk@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > Often the most difficult part of packaging are the unique rules the
> > Debian ftp team requires for debian/copyright that are not required in
> > distributions with actual lawyers. That's a completely separate topic.
> That seems needlessly snide, and glosses over the fact that we are bound
> by constraints that other distributions are not, such as giving a damn
> about the license conditions we inflict on our downstreams, which I
> suspect the lawyers you allude to are not being retained to contemplate.
That seems needlessly snide, I am pretty sure the lawyers at companies
like Red Hat or Oracle are retained to contemplate avoiding unnecessary
In legally risky areas like MP3 companies like Red Hat also have a
history of being far more cautious than what we put on our mirrors.
It would be even more reason to get a statement from an actual lawyer,
instead of basing everything on "the FTP team's view" of non-lawyers.
Status quo is that the ftp team sets rules that cause plenty of work and
frustration among contributors - and that might not even be required.
It would make life easier for many people if there would be:
1. A proper legal opinion on what is actually required for debian/copyright.
2. Some research what is actually useful for our users.
3. A discussion what can be done without too much burden for maintainers.
There are so many things about the current debian/copyright
handling that don't make much sense, e.g. the problem that
DEP-5 debian/copyright does show the actual copyright of a
binary package in all cases makes it much less useful for users.
> Cheers, Phil.
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