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Re: QA expectations (Was: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH)




On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 05:19:23PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> The things you have to remember before doing an upload are insane.
> Having humans remember all this crap is not a reasonable expectation. I
> think our upload process is a bit like classical debhelper: You remember
> to do all the things. We've seen the argument that the dh sequencer
> sheds light on the unusual aspects of a package. I argue that this
> should apply to QA as well. People shouldn't have to remember all the
> QA. QA should just work and QA should tell people about the (unusual)
> failures.

agreed.

> Now one can turn this argument upside down. One can say: unstable is the
> QA area. Britney prevents testing migration on autopkgtest/piuparts/
> missing binaries. In that case, we should simply stop filing such things
> in the BTS and stop doing manual QA on unstable. It should be ok to
> break unstable. But this is not going to work with transitions. Thus I
> still think we're doing it wrong and unstable isn't the place to do the
> QA we expect from everyone.

have uploads go to unstable-proposed and then, after basic automatic QA
checks, go to unstable? (and then testing as usual today...)


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