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Re: Confusing our users - who is supporting LTS?




On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 at 10:15, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 11:36:11AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:18 AM Holger Levsen wrote:
> >
> > > ... and that's what I meant when I said not much has changed: what was
> > > bad about about the idea of Debian paying people I still think is bad
> > > today. And I don't think I'm alone here.
> >
> > I also agree with Debian not paying members for their contributions.
> >
> > > Money is a cause of friction (at best) and as such I firmly believe it's
> > > better we keep money/paying contributors out of Debian *itself*.
> >
> > I note that we are paying Outreachy interns using Debian funds. I
> > personally do not have a problem with this as long as it remains a
> > mechanism for growing the community rather than paying insiders.
>
> I disagree, in both cases.
>
> Debian should not pay anything through an organization that has race, gender
> and nationality discrimination as its core purpose.  Accepting code produced
> this way is acceptable (as would be contributions from anyone), but
> providing monetary support for such ideology is not something I can speak of
> positively.
>
> On the other hand, using some funds for an activity vital for a good part of
> the users which doesn't find enough volunteers, while controversial, is not
> fundamentally bad.

You can extend this logic and claim it’s fundamentally bad to help
people in need, since that is discrimination on the fact of being in
need. In other words, helping someone who’s in a worst position
because of been previously and currently being discriminated against,
while being sort of discriminative (e.g. helping that person and not
someone who’s not been discriminated against), it fundamentally a good
thing, as it helps people and brings things into balance.

Your logic is flawed, just accept it already.

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Cheers,
  Andrej