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Re: Want to make salsa advertise contact and source code details




On Fri, 25 May 2018, Geert Stappers wrote:

> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 02:54:17PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 May 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But, I find this response worrying.  It makes me wonder whether Salsa
> > > is in fact really Free Software, for Debian.  I don't want to suck
> > > energy out of the Salsa team, but:
> > > 
> > > Free Software is not only a question of licences and legal
> > > permissions.  Software is free for a particular user or group of users
> > > if those users can, in practice, exercise the four freedoms, including
> > > modifying it and using the modified version.  (And yes, that means
> > > software freedom can be a matter of degree rather than an absolute,
> > > because it matters how easy it is to exercise one's freedoms.)
> > > 
> > > IMO if we cannot, in practice, modify gitlab as used in Salsa, even to
> > > make simple changes, then it is not free software for us.
> > 
> > Its not a matter of free software, but a matter of us having to support those
> > patches - which is something we don't want to do. 
> 
> Not knowing who is "we", but the thing I want to says is
> 
> 
>   Do not ask for a lighter load,
>   but ask for more shoulders to carry the load.
This is not about shoulders, but about lessons learned with alioth. 

alex