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Re: Want to make salsa advertise contact and source code details




On Fri, 25 May 2018, Ian Jackson wrote:

> Sean Whitton writes ("Re: Bug#864354: Bug #864354 in <somepkg> marked as pending"):
> > Thank you for advocating on behalf of users who are not in a position to
> > use the web form, Ian.
> 
> Thanks for your support, Sean.  I have submitted:
> 
>  https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/webhook/merge_requests/7
>    Improve emails slightly
> 
>  https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/issues/77
>    Please provide web page footer on every page with service information
> 
> In response to the latter, Alexander Wirt writes:
> 
>   Unless this is possible without patching, this will not happen.
> 
> I have no idea whether it is possible without patching.  It seems like
> the kind of feature that would probably already be present and, if
> not, the kind of feature that upstream would probably be happy to
> take.  Failing that, there must surely be some nearly equivalent thing
> that can be done.
> 
> Perhaps someone who knows the gitlab codebase, and/or Ruby, better,
> would like to take a look ?
> 
> 
> But, I find this response worrying.  It makes me wonder whether Salsa
> is in fact really Free Software, for Debian.  I don't want to suck
> energy out of the Salsa team, but:
> 
> Free Software is not only a question of licences and legal
> permissions.  Software is free for a particular user or group of users
> if those users can, in practice, exercise the four freedoms, including
> modifying it and using the modified version.  (And yes, that means
> software freedom can be a matter of degree rather than an absolute,
> because it matters how easy it is to exercise one's freedoms.)
> 
> IMO if we cannot, in practice, modify gitlab as used in Salsa, even to
> make simple changes, then it is not free software for us.
Its not a matter of free software, but a matter of us having to support those
patches - which is something we don't want to do. 

Alex