Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster
- Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 13:15:02 -0400
- From: Michael Stone <mstone@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: Bits from the release team: full steam ahead towards buster
On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 11:19:05AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Stephan Seitz dijo [Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:11:47PM +0200]:
On Mi, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:47:11 +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 10:23:29AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > really? there's more than one alphabetical order for english words?
> yes, sorting depends on the locale... :)
Can you please give an example for the sorting difference in different
locales if you only have english words (and I would say it means only ASCII
in this case)?
I know that there are differences if you have words containing non-ASCII
characters like ü.
But why would ü not be part of the sorting? Yes, that was my example
before you censored my thought process - In Spanish, [áéíóú] and
[aeiou] share the same spot while ordering, as do ñ and n, as do u and
ü (and we have no further diacriticals). I understand that German
sorts äöü at the end.
But... Ok, lets stick to 7-bit ASCII as defined. When I was in primary
school, "ch" and "ll" were treated as single letters (sorted
respectively between "c" and "d", and between "l" and "m". So,
thinking with an Ubuntu slant, we would have cow < cheetah < dinosaur
and lobster < llama < manatee.
So, in the context of naming releases that are ordered by the first
letter of the name, this seems to be a complete non-issue? We can safely
assume that initial letters a<b<c<d...? I understand that people enjoy
pedantry, but this is ridiculous.