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Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile

On 1/3/18, Steve Langasek <vorlon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 09:13:24AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
>> Conversely, if the patches are invasive and unmaintainable, its not on
>> Debian to merge them.
> Moreover, defining an official nosystemd profile in Debian signals that we
> are willing to support it, which means any maintainers who refuse such
> patches will immediately become the targets of abuse from anti-systemd
> zealots.
> Building a derivative around the exclusion of libsystemd from the
> filesystem
> is not technically defensible.  This is a purely political fork, and it's
> politics that we should stay entirely clear of.

As a random long-time user, I recently bought a new pre-built laptop
with debian and got the systemd fun for the first time.  Decided no
more debian for me in the future.  I'm pleased to hear that there are
derivative distros that resist systemd and encourage debian to *allow*
them, assuming people are willing to do the work.  *Not* allowing this is
the politics-driven position.