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Bug#886238: Please introduce official nosystemd build profile




On Wed, Jan 03, 2018 at 02:25:03PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jan 03, Andrew Shadura <andrew@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Do we really need systemd-less builds? I'm not convinced this is
> > something relevant to Debian.
> Not at all.
> This would be a lot of work for the benefit of a tiny audience: the 
> disturbed people who hate systemd so much that they cannot accept even 
> that libsystemd is installed on their computers.
> 

- OR -

> Not at all.
> This would be a lot of work for the benefit of a tiny audience: the 
> disturbed people who hate [non-free] so much that they cannot accept even 
> that [any non-free software] is installed on their computers.

I suspect that having the archive split into main/contrib/non-free
involves a non-trivial amount of work.  Yet Debian as a project, to
serve its users and derivatives, undertakes the work.

As has already been pointed out by others, if someone is interested in
doing the work and it is not too invasive or disruptive to other parts
of Debian, then it should be done.

That said, I find that your characterization of someone not wanting
systemd installed on their system as "disturbed" to itself be somewhat
disturbing.  You cannot possibly know what grounds someone might have
for not wanting systemd, and to automatically and universally
characterize that as "disturbed" implies a value judgment that runs
counter both to the freeness and universailty that Debian as a project
espouses.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez