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Re: Bug#877212: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#877212: node-d3-color: B-D npm not available in testing




On Thu, 05 Oct 2017 12:39:42 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

> Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 01:29:16PM +0100]:
> > I have also heard of packages which do "apt-get source" in their rules
> > files.
[..]
> > Of course it would be better if we had a more declarative way of
> > saying "this package needs foo.deb to build - and we mean the .deb,
> > not for foo to be installed", and the corresponding "this package
> > needs the source code for bar".  But this is rather a niche, and it
> > doesn't seem to cause trouble in practice.  So AFAICT it's no-one
> > priority.
> 
> UGH.
> 
> I am not convinced this use case should be supported - Even if the
> software providers are ourselves, which we trust not to trojan our own
> goodies, this still allows for a great deal of nondeterminism. If the
> "apt-get source"d package is updated, the build might not work anymore
> or might yield different results. 

True but this is the same as when a package in Build-Depends(-Indep)
changes.

In practice I've had the case where an unpacked .deb (instead of an
installed one) would have been enough, and I also have a use case for
a source package: libdatetime-timezone-perl could be binNMUd [0]
against newer versions of the tzdata source package instead of
someone manually doing the dance of downloading the tzdata upstream
tarballing, turning it into .pm files and creating a huge quilt
patch.


Cheers,
gregor

[0] if we had binNMUs for arch:all packages

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