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Re: Evaluation (Re: Proposal: A new approach to differential debs)




On 2017-08-16 00:21:09 [+0200], Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> libreoffice-core (size only):
> 
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 29M Jul 22 20:02 libreoffice-core_5.3.5~rc1-3_amd64.deb
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 31M Jul 16 00:10 libreoffice-core_5.4.0~rc2-1_amd64.deb
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 31M Jul 28 18:29 libreoffice-core_5.4.0-1_amd64.deb
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak  18M Aug 15 23:44 libreoffice-core_5.3.5~rc1-3_5.4.0-1_amd64.pdeb
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 4.5M Aug 15 23:42 libreoffice-core_5.4.0~rc2-1_5.4.0-1_amd64.pdeb
> 
> For 5.4~rc2 to 5.4 it made a huge difference, for 5.3.5~rc1 to 5.4 not so much,
> so it probably is a good fit for stable updates, but not for unstable and testing.

I would say it depends on the software. Some differs more than other.

> firefox (size & performance):
> 
>  -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 2.3M Aug 15 20:59 firefox_55.0-1_55.0-2_amd64.debdelta
>  -rw-r--r-- 1 jak jak 2.4M Aug 15 22:13 firefox_55.0-1_55.0-2_amd64.pdeb

and bsdfiff of old data.tar vs new data.dat 2.3MiB which is probably
what debdelta does. So I am not sure if it is worth the extra mile to
diff file by file. It might be faster and less memory hungry however.

> # Further extensions
> 
> If you put a pristine-tar delta into the delta file, you can fully
> reconstruct debs.

There is deltarpm [0] which does the same thing for rpm/fedora. I tried
to find a design document but it seems that there is none. It seems
however they grab all the binaries and make a delta via in-tree copy of
bsdiff (delta.c). They also have intree-zlib but I didn't look why…
I was mostly interrested if they have some filters to replace the
offsets in binaries with something else but didn't find anything yet.

I am not sure if they keep old rpm around for the delta to apply or if
they reconstruct if from the file system (minus the config files).

[0] https://gitorious.org/deltarpm/deltarpm

Sebastian